VIP-NC Finds WMDs Double Voting, Maybe


VIP-NC Finds Dual Voters in FL & NC, according to the North Carolina chapter of the Voter Integrity Project.

(Raleigh, NC)—MAR 20, 2013—The NC State Board of Elections has confirmed their intent to prosecute five people on suspicion that they voted in both Florida and NC during the November 2012 election, according to email records provided by the Voter Integrity Project of NC, the group that investigated and identified the voters to both states’ election offices earlier last month.

The group initially identified what it thought were 33 potential instances of double voting. Of these, they classified “19 as ‘highly likely,’ six as ‘probable’ and eight as ‘possible’ vote fraud candidates.” The NC Board of Elections, however, determined that several apparent instances of double voting were clerical errors. After a VIP-NC search consuming who knows how many man-hours, the NCBOE confirmed 5 for possible prosecution by matching signatures on voter rolls in NC and FL.

If successfully prosecuted, double voting is punishable as a felony. And it should be.

VIP-NC is frustrated that the state BOE cannot prosecute the five remaining cases itself. That is the purview of local District Attorneys. So VIP-NC is asking the legislature to expand the BOE’s jurisdiction. They don’t want local prosecutors determining whether or not to prosecute alleged voter impersonation fraud — which these five cases are not. The voters who allegedly cast ballots in two states (which is still illegal) did so in their own names. And while alive, too.

The Voter Integrity Project believes these five cases are “only the tip of the iceberg,” says Executive Director, Jay DeLancy.

You remember Jay DeLancy. He’s the amateur sleuth who challenged 550 voters’ registrations in Wake County last year. The Wake County BOE found only 18 that merited further investigation. After the board threw out those remaining 18, DeLancy “snatched his microphone off the board’s table mid-meeting, kicking glass doors open in front of him as he stormed out of the meeting room,” WRAL reported.

On the VIP-NC site, DeLancy dismisses those who insist that voter ID is a solution in search of a problem, saying, “Vote fraud deniers make nice poetry and they give good sound bites, but the idea is as absurd as claiming that no speeding happens on I-40 unless the Highway Patrol writes tickets.”

Except the Highway Patrol is not expected to prevent all speeding. The force is sized and budgeted as a deterrent, to minimize speeding and to prosecute it when they find it. If, for example, the Voter Integrity Project really expected the Patrol to prevent all speeding violations, they had better hand their wallets to the tax man. They would end up creating a lot of those government jobs that government never creates and find themselves living in the police state that tea party members fear.

If on the other hand, DeLancy wants increased enforcement of existing voting laws to eliminate the potential of, say, five double-voters found only after an exhaustive search, fine. Perhaps they’ll also find that funding that enhanced enforcement is cheaper than inconveniencing millions of legitimate North Carolina voters with a Voter ID law instead.

And how many of DeLancy’s five suspects already had photo IDs that played no part in preventing double voting? If the suspects can flit back and forth between their NC and FL addresses by car, the odds are all of them. This will not likely dissuade Republican legislators in Raleigh from passing a Voter ID law in the current session. Their leadership recently abandoned voter fraud as the primary rationale for passing it anyway, which means that for all the pious hand wringing about protecting the integrity of the election process, they never took their own warnings seriously.

If instead of a preventing someone from casting an illegal vote at a polling place, the discussion was about preventing someone from buying a firearm at a gun show illegally, supporters of North Carolina’s Voter Integrity Project might make a very different argument. To wit, they might claim that no amount of legislation would prevent a determined criminal from getting his hands on a gun. Instead, laws passed to stop him will simply interfere with law-abiding Americans’ constitutionally guaranteed right to keep and bear arms.

Just don’t expect them to believe that a Voter ID law will interfere with law-abiding Americans’ constitutionally guaranteed right to vote.


  1. Tom Sullivan says:

    Just found this: On being governed by brigands in NC

    This state crawled and scratched its way out of the South’s basement by a determined, longstanding and multi-generational effort to invest in its people and its places. Sadly, those hard-won initiatives, we now see, can be scrapped in an instant.

    We can suffer such damage in two or four or six years that it will take generations to recover. We face exigency, true and unrelenting, cruel and demeaning, serious and deadly. An outraged citizenry is now obliged to rise in order to protect its children, its future and its shared bond.

    That can’t wait for the next electoral season. It’ll be too late. See you in the streets.

  2. Yeah, this guy DeLancy was at the Buncombe BOE hearing on the Merrill/Frost case. He argues that college students shouldn’t be allowed to vote in local elections:

    An unpopular but prudent solution would either have been to make the students vote by absentee ballot from their permanent home address or for the Buncombe County BoE to count the students’ ballots as “partials,” only applying their votes for the bigger races but not the district ones. Some would scoff at that idea, but let’s not forget that many NC college students don’t even qualify for in-state tuition rates. Most plan to leave after school but can still vote in local races.

    Taking a narrower view, the State BoE ignored the unintended consequence for every other NC county that hosts a college or university, so we can only hope the courts see the bigger picture.

    A few related issues the courts might consider involve the entire student-voting franchise: First, should college students who leave town after school really have standing in local races? Second, are the students being overly influenced by any college professors who could shape their values with a bully pulpit and the power of a grade book?

    Curiously, his argument centers around the fact that these Warren Wilson student votes “flipped control of the Board from Republican back to Democrat.”

    I wonder if he would be traveling here with his little video camera, glower, and insults if the situation were reversed. I doubt it.

    Secondly, please please please, anyone who finds themselves in a room with this guy again, ask him if his proposal would include throwing out the votes from the conservative christian Montreat College students, just up the road in the same district as WWC. If his answer is no, call him a democracy-hating fascist, because that’s what he is.

  3. Mim Toffitt says:

    Geez, Ever’body knows that the hippies and leftists in regular colleges are there trying to get “learning” or an “education”, which is secret liberal code for the Communist indoctrination into the vast left-wing atheist/new world order cult. On the other hand, these good children who attend Christian schools are there to improve their ability to serve God and make the world safe for the one true primitive death cult of the zombie Jesus.
    It’s a completely different thing.
    The conflict between Knowledge and Faith has been going on since way before a pack of ignorant Christian rioters stoned and literally dismembered the distinguished mathematician Hypatia in Alexandria in 415 AD.
    Energy must be harnessed to be of any use. Electricity must be controlled, because too much of it can and will kill you.
    The same is true of knowledge and freedom and all these things that liberals claim to want. It must be controlled, and focused on what is necessary in order to be of any use to society and therefore to God. Or something like that.
    In any case, unless it reinforces the One true faith and the political ambitions of its adherents over all else, it ain’t no good.
    To bring that back to the act of voting, it should be obvious that things that are good for society, God and the Republican vision for America as the western frontier of a vast “new middle age” empire with the nuclear hot spot formerly known as the middle east as its center, are to be counted fully, whereas the things, people and ideas that are dangerous and counter-productive to that vision must be rooted out, called out for the heresy it is, and a way found to limit the damage of such things.
    Think of it this way. At least we are not proposing to burn you silly liberals at the stake. Yet.

  4. TJ says:

    I want to know if your conservative pastor knows you called Jesus a zombie?!

    You’re not the role model I thought you pretended to be.