Friday Open Thread


Which TV morning team is covering the End of the World?

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  1. Tom Sullivan says:

    From Mike Lux at dKos, Get off your ass and get busy (I’m paraphrasing):

    “… if you want to save Social Security from serious benefit cuts that will cause seniors to go hungry and have their utilities shut off, you have to act. You have to rise up and raise hell, because otherwise this train is going down the tracks- it won’t be stopped unless a lot of people get in the way NOW.

    The Capitol Switchboard number is 202-224-3121. The White House number is 202-456-1414. You can sign a petition here. But it is going to take people doing more. Make sure your parents, grandparents, and everyone else you know does something. Talk to people at work and at church and everywhere you go. Join up with groups that are fighting the battle like MoveOn and Working America. Show up at your congressperson’s office and let them know what you think. Organize a picket outside that congressional office. Do not hold anything back if you care about this issue. And maybe, just maybe, if enough of us raise some hell, this train headed down the track to cutting Social Security benefits, to taking money out of the hands of vulnerable innocents who had nothing to do with the deficits, will be forced to stop.

  2. Jon King says:

    Can you call it “Plan B”, when it is obvious you never had a “Plan A”?

  3. Tom Sullivan says:

    Meanwhile, as Wayne LaPierre held his press conference:

    “Four people including the shooter were killed and three Pennsylvania state troopers were wounded on Friday during a shooting in Frankstown Township, Pennsylvania, the Altoona Mirror reported, citing the county prosecutor.”–finance.html

    The gun manufacturers’ chief lobbyist responds by insisting that every school hire armed guards armed with guns made by his clients.

  4. Ascend of Asheville says:

    “The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.”

    There is so much wrong about that declaration, I can’t even begin.

    How much easier is it to stop a bad guy without a gun?

    What percentage of the time does the good guy with a gun win? What if that good guy is really more focused on being a school teacher when duty calls?

    How many good guys with guns have accidentally shot the wrong person?

    Etc. Etc.

  5. Tom Sullivan says:

    Conclusions of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center:

    * Guns are not used millions of times each year in self-defense.

    * Most purported self-defense gun uses are gun uses in escalating arguments and are both socially undesirable and illegal.

    * Firearms are used far more often to intimidate than in self-defense.

    * Guns in the home are used more often to intimidate intimates than to thwart crime.

    * Adolescents are far more likely to be threatened with a gun than to use one in self-defense.

    * Criminals who are shot are typically the victims of crime.

    * Few criminals are shot by decent law abiding citizens.

  6. The City of Asheville announces what we’ve been saying all along:

    “If Cane Creek merger happens, City/MSD will end up subsidizing Henderson development.”

    One of the dirty little secrets of this whole scheme to seize Asheville’s water system: Chuck McGrady’s goal in all of this has been to secure northern Henderson County’s sewer needs for the next century, and to make Asheville/Buncombe pay for it.

    Why else would MSD staff, after meeting with McGrady, quietly remove this underlying assumption from their $200,000 merger study, and the proposal to the City that it is based on:

    “MSD would keep water accounting and sewer accounting separate following the merger, with no immediate impact to sewer customers or MSD’s long-term business plan.”

    MSD study, page 21:

    That element no longer appears in the proposal to the City, page 3:

    Here’s the video revealing that Buncombe County’s MSD Board members were not told that this important separation of the accounting had been removed from the proposal, until after they had voted for it:

    That’s right, they’re now going to blend water and sewer monies together, after Chuck McGrady tells them that he’s going to force them to absorb Cane Creek, and all the attendant costs of upgrading their sewer system to MSD standards.

    And that’s nothing compared to the fact that McGrady is suggesting he may grant Henderson County up to 5 voting seats on MSD, making them the dominant voice on the regional water and sewer authority serving Buncombe County.

    In the words of retiring Buncombe County Commissioner and MSD Board member Bill Stanley:

    “Henderson County will be in charge of our infrastructure. They’ll decide where the water and sewer line goes. I think that’s what Mr. McGrady wants… and if we’re in competition with Henderson County to get a plant, or a factory, or whatever, they’re gonna decide where the water goes, and we don’t have anything to say about that… That’s the thing that worries me, folks, that what they’ve got in mind is bad.”

    Got your checkbooks ready, Buncombe?

  7. The same Wayne LaPierre who responded to the NFL player Jovan Belcher’s gun involved murder-suicide with this gem:

    “The one thing missing in that equation is that woman owning a gun so she could have saved her life from that murderer,” LaPierre told USA TODAY Sports on Thursday

    Via digby via wonkette:

    Golly, if only Kassandra Perkins had known the security of firearms ownership! She might still be alive!
    There’s only one small problem with that notion. Perkins and Belcher were both avid shooters, and the couple owned as many as eight guns.

    Maybe it’s time for NRA members to call for new leadership.

  8. TJ says:

    Writ, maybe we just ALL need to brandish weapons, and, if someone looks at us funny (threateningly) we shoot them. That will stop it. They can’t hurt us if we shoot them first.

    This kind of reminds me of that story, “The Box.” Someone could push a button that ends SOMEONE’S life, somewhere, and, they would be wealthy.

    Problem is, once reset, the button was pushed by another someone who did not know THEM.

    Barry, forget the checkbooks. Order of the day seems to be semi-automatic weapons.

    I’m starting to wonder if MrGrady put Moffitt up to all this mess. I guess as long as they keep it confused, they think no one can single them out as the responsible party.

  9. Tom Buckner says:

    Re: McGrady and Moffitt.

    If you look up username RandomMandarin on Huffington Post, that’s me. I picked that username because I think electing representatives is a big part of why democracy doesn’t work.

    Instead we should fill these seats with randomly selected ‘mandarins,’ i.e. citizens who will hold positions in government should be chosen like jurors. This would prevent power blocs, parties, bribery-by-campaign-contribution, and general corruption by removing many of the existing methods of concentrating power.

    This video is in French so you’ll want to turn on subtitles: To be for the people, it must be by the people: Étienne Chouard at TEDxRepubliqueSquare

  10. Tom Buckner says:

    P.S. Since we’re being utopian, all random mandarins ought to be tested to exclude sociopaths and should have a reasonable understanding of logic and detecting fallacies.

    Since the selection of representatives would be truly random, having extreme views would not prevent anyone from being chosen for office. But it would prevent those with extreme views from dominating their more numerous centrist peers, or packing the government with more extremists.

  11. Davyne Dial says:

    “* Few criminals are shot by decent law abiding citizens.”

    Well there sure is a whole lot of wild west, High Noon, cowboy mentality swirling around the pro-gun factions in the USA.