Sep
17

Romney: 47% of Americans Are Lazy, Dependent on Government

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  1. Davyne Dial says:

    That 47% is mostly made up of military retirees and SSI recepients. How dare he say a retired soldier is steeped in “lazy entitlement.” And seniors on SSI have paid into the system all their working lives are not lazy, greedy entitled old geezers and toothless grannys.

    I believe the actual figure of non-military and non-SSI recepients is around 17%.

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  2. Gordon Smith says:

    “It’s shocking that a candidate for President of the United States would go behind closed doors and declare to a group of wealthy donors that half the American people view themselves as ‘victims,’ entitled to handouts, and are unwilling to take ‘personal responsibility’ for their lives. It’s hard to serve as president for all Americans when you’ve disdainfully written off half the nation.”

    – Jim Messina, Obama for America Campaign Manager

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  3. Davyne Dial says:

    To clarify…there has long been a rumor swirling or aspersions cast by the GOP that 47% of American do not pay taxes.

    I neglected to mention in my first comment that those retired military who do not pay taxes are war related disabled. And many on SSI do not make enough to meet the threshold to pay taxes. The number outside this approximately 30%, don’t pay taxes for various reasons, maybe he’s included in the percentage not paying their fair share…since he won’t reveal his taxes, we’ll just have to guess about that.

    If we stopped having these trumped up wars, just maybe the war rich fat cats who are now contributing to the disability/tax exempt retirement pay could rest a bit easier.

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  4. TJ says:

    wow! Just WOW!

    Davyne, that also does not include those on SSDI. Having a disability income based on work history, and, how SS actually helps those who can return to work by not touching their money for a year, and, an additional 3 months, before they stop or deduct from it, based on that trial work period. MUCH better system than our great state.

    Anyway, I guess those who worked before, are just lazy because they are not out there sweating to finish paying into his account in the Cayman’s.

    Maher was saying he thinks Romney is out. I hope that is correct. I have NO respect for his lack of respect.

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  5. TJ says:

    I think the funniest, and stupidest, thing I have heard of Romney:

    Taking a bold stance saying he will NOT take God off our coins…as if… WHO is asking for that, btw?!

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  6. Tom Sullivan says:

    To add on to Davyne’s link, people who contribute more in annual federal income tax than they do in payroll tax (blue section of the pie) whine as if they carry the entire weight of the U.S. of A on their sorry, Armani-padded shoulders. People who contribute more in payroll tax than income tax from the very first nickel in their very first paycheck contribute roughly the same percentage towards the nation’s upkeep (red section of the pie) at the federal level. “The typical family,” David Leonhardt notes, “pays a lot of state and local taxes, too — almost half as much as in federal taxes.” Yet, the whiners (who ought to know that money is fungible) insist that their dollar in the federal treasury’s right pocket is worth more than the someone else’s dollar in the left, even though they look the same and spend the same.

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  7. Keith Thomson says:

    Romney’s press conference tonight, to–partially- walk back the comments he made at his $30,000 per plate fundraiser, made him look like he was just released from treatment at a mental institution. Deer in the headlights look, hair unkempt, not entirely in control of his situation. Panic mode. I almost felt sorry for him. Pitiful character.

    If Obama has 47-48% already, from those who, according to RMoney, are dependent upon government, he can add quite a number of us who have paid taxes all of our working lives, and that sounds like a landslide in the making. This is game changing failure on Romney’s part, illustrating his unfitness to lead 100% of our nation.

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  8. TJ says:

    Keith,

    I have not heard much positive from the political news networks, nor, from “morning after” assessments. I’m hoping I’m not being prematurely optimistic, even though, I don’t think we should just sit and wait, obviously.

    Honestly, I have not seen him have the political savvy to promote the religious fever he seems to be catering to. Maybe he thinks that is his salvation (or, saving grace). I don’t think his rhetoric impresses God too much, tho.” At least, not some of his followers.

    Where ARE his image consultants?!

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  9. Tom Sullivan says:

    RMoney responds:

    Think Progress:

    The former Massachusetts governor took just three questions, walking away when asked if his claims that almost half of Americans see themselves as “victims” represent his “core convictions” and what he believes.

    [...]

    Romney made the original comments at the “Boca Raton home of private-equity executive Marc Leder on May 17.” Leder, is the co-CEO of the private equity firm Sun Capital, which has a reputation for bankrupting companies in the pursuit of profit. “Since 2008, some 25 of its companies — roughly one of every five it owns — have filed for bankruptcy.” Not only that, but the company was accused by the federal Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation (PBGC) just a few months ago of intentionally pushing a company into bankruptcy in order to avoid paying workers’ pensions.

    Stick a fork in him…

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  10. Davyne Dial says:

    “Where ARE his image consultants?”

    Somewhere in a hidden room trying to extract their heads from outta their butts.

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  11. He’s screwed. They can play this clip over and over again for the next two months.

    It’s gonna be a landslide and it might just take a boatload of Reps/Senators/Govs/State Houses with it.

    I hope so. I’m really tired of having a conservative party and a right-wing nutjob party. I think moderate Republicans will find a nice home in the New And Improved DNC (USA! USA! USA! We’re pro-military and pro-queer! Get over it!)

    Now, of course, the thing to do is to finally convince all the Green Party goons to stop aiming for the Presidency and start focusing on town councils, city boards, county commissions, school boards, hell – dog catcher.

    That’s something I wrote about back in, geez, 2000 or something. Think about what 12 years of progressive growth at local levels would have done for a third party…but no!!! Let’s get us a million bucks and throw it at the Presidency every four years! That is the path to a strong national party!

    Whatever.

    I suppose in my heart of hearts I know at least I am dreaming about the collapse of the GOP. It won’t be this year.

    But I don’t expect to see them in 2020. I hope not, anyway. 2024 would be a stretch but I would accept that as an early fiftieth birthday present.

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  12. Davyne Dial says:

    It’s what happens when you sell your soul for some transitory power.

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  13. TJ says:

    I just hope they are not acting like baffoons now, and, come out with some stellar surprise. I’m not celebrating, yet. I know too many die hard R’s, who will vote R, even if it was the devil dressed in disguise (damn, reminds me of some Johnny Cash song…can’t imagine he would be voting Romney, if he were here, the Man in Black-until the world got better…poor guy, never wore white again).

    If it’s all true, it gives me hope for America, though.

    So many true believers, though. Well, I guess that’s true for all of us…but, if Obama was acting like an idiot, at least D’s I know would be talking about it, not, excusing him.

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  14. dasdrew says:

    The vast majority of the “47%” live in red states.

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/02/12/us/entitlement-map.html

    This election may have just ended.

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  15. Tom Sullivan says:

    David Brooks, NYT:

    The people who receive the disproportionate share of government spending are not big-government lovers. They are Republicans. They are senior citizens. They are white men with high school degrees. As Bill Galston of the Brookings Institution has noted, the people who have benefited from the entitlements explosion are middle-class workers, more so than the dependent poor.

    Romney’s comments also reveal that he has lost any sense of the social compact. In 1987, during Ronald Reagan’s second term, 62 percent of Republicans believed that the government has a responsibility to help those who can’t help themselves. Now, according to the Pew Research Center, only 40 percent of Republicans believe that.

    The Republican Party, and apparently Mitt Romney, too, has shifted over toward a much more hyperindividualistic and atomistic social view — from the Reaganesque language of common citizenship to the libertarian language of makers and takers. There’s no way the country will trust the Republican Party to reform the welfare state if that party doesn’t have a basic commitment to provide a safety net for those who suffer for no fault of their own.

    Governor Etch A Sketch says he won’t take God off our coins. No, he’ll remove E Pluribus Unum.

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  16. “The vast majority of the “47%” live in red states.
    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/02/12/us/entitlement-map.html
    This election may have just ended.”

    No, because they don’t see themselves as the people he’s talking about.

    Go ahead, read the comments.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=491520340865716&set=a.111337302217357.14377.107285652622522&type=1

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  17. Tom Sullivan says:

    New York Daily News front page: Mitt Hits The Fan.

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  18. TJ says:

    Yeah, thanks a LOT, Mat!

    I read just a few, and it got me so aggravated that I couldn’t help myself…

    I’ve gotta stop clicking on links.

    Idiots! (please don’t tell my kids I used that word).

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  19. TJ says:

    Try this again:

    Thanks, Tom, I needed THAT link.

    I take exception to his Mexican comment, though. He doesn’t even respect them, how can he say it would give him a better chance?

    Maybe it would work for us, though.

    We find out he is an illegal immigrant (show us your birth certificate, dammit! Yeah, that’s right, take it out of your pocket, NOW), we deport him. He screws up in Mexico and languishes in the jails there, with all the others who have that “advantage.”

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  20. TJ says:

    Would’ve watched it, Jim, but MJ popped up a screen to donate, and it would not go away. I don’t really want to pay $ to hear Romney. If I did, I’d go get the food for the price of the entertainment. (..you know, dinner with an ideologue).

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