Jun
01

Friday Open Thread

By

Because if it weren’t Friday, it would be some other Open Thread.


Categories : Open Thread

Comments

  1. Tom Sullivan says:

    Dave Neiwert (“Over the Cliff”, Crooks and Liars) and his family live near where the mass shooting happened in Seattle. Dave responds to the deadly events C&L from a state in which financial support for mental health services and the rest of the social safety net have tailed off, and in which “the NRA is openly feeding the irrationality of paranoid, gun-toting and often angry people.” He concludes:

    Here in my neighborhood — a classic liberal Seattle area, full of young professionals and their young families — people just have a sick feeling in their stomachs. We know something isn’t right. And we have the values of right-wing nutcases who hate us anyway — because we’re, you know, librul scum who want gun control and enough social workers to manage the state’s population of mentally ill people — to thank for it. Strange how that works.

    What’s also strange is that it isn’t street crime that has gone up, but general hostility and untreated madness in the thirty years since Chip Elliot wrote an oft-cited Esquire article, “Letter from an ANGRY Reader.” Back then, novelist Elliot reluctantly began carrying a gun because he’d been a repeat victim of street crime. He wanted to see was “a good set of disk brakes on people’s behavior” because he feared we were turning into “a nation of pirates.” Elliot was almost right. Thirty years later what we have are white collar pirates in control of a finance industry without any brakes, and untreated paranoids “angry toward everything.”

    Rate this comment: Thumb up 0

  2. Diogenes says:

    The John Edwards jury did the right thing. He was a jerk but the case brought against him was bogus. I’m glad he got off. And, glad the jury had the guts to do it.

    Rate this comment: Thumb up 3

  3. RHS says:

    Asheville has made yet another list. This one being the ten worst cities for single people:

    http://travel.yahoo.com/ideas/10-worst-cities-for-singles.html?page=all

    Rate this comment: Thumb up 1

  4. Tom Sullivan says:

    Are We About to See Another Stolen Presidential Election? by Digby

    Republican state governments around the country have been working overtime to manipulate the electoral laws and shut down the Democrats’ organizing institutions, from ACORN to unions, and wealthy plutocrats have put huge money behind the effort. With the exception of Wisconsin, the Democrats have been behaving like potted plants in response.

    Rate this comment: Thumb up 1

  5. shadmarsh says:

    I’m glad he got off. And, glad the jury had the guts to do it.

    Wasn’t this what got him into trouble to begin with? And ewww to the second sentence.

    Rate this comment: Thumb up 2

  6. TJ says:

    “Because if it weren’t Friday, it would be some other Open Thread.”

    Then the threads get all entangled, and the “open” part goes out the window ;-).

    “untreated madness”

    I might be one of those…well, I guess not…I get treated up the wazzooo(?).

    Can I leave my grocery list on an open thread?

    Or, how about oxymorons?

    like: “clearly confused”…”think about nothing” (as I learn about Buddhism, this is a common misunderstanding), “deafening silence” (I heard that last night in a meeting.

    There’s plenty to go around, ya’ know.

    Rate this comment: Thumb up 0

  7. Tom Sullivan says:

    See ChickFlix for “Movie Reviews from the Chicks’ Perspective” (Arty Chick has an Asheville perspective):

    “Bernie”
    Posted by Arty Chick on June 1, 2012

    Whenever I see that a movie is “based on a true story” I wonder how little of said story actually made it onto the screen. With Richard Linklater’s Bernie, the real life material was just too good not to make it into the film. And what a hoot of a story it is! It is without a doubt, one of the funniest movies I have seen in a while, in large part because of the townspeople of Carthage, Texas, who are interviewed throughout the film delivering a hilarious play-by-play of the unfolding events in their little town.

    Read More »

    Rate this comment: Thumb up 0

  8. Davyne Dial says:

    “We know something isn’t right. And we have the values of right-wing nutcases who hate us anyway — because we’re, you know, librul scum who want gun control and enough social workers to manage the state’s population of mentally ill people “ ~TS

    Thing is, the extremists on the right lump everyone who is not in lockstep with them to their very core, as librul scum. I’m so much more aware of this free-floating intense hatred of the “other” by these extremists due to the damm internets. Before, I’m thinking I was in my own delusion – thinking it was only segments of my own family who were like this. But damm if it isn’t scarily pervasive through out the Country. And the ones I know personally are an ignorant (and proud of that fact) fear driven bunch. So I share that sick in the stomach dread, while the Barbarians lurk.

    Rate this comment: Thumb up 4

  9. Tom Sullivan says:

    Dave N. knows them better than anyone else on the Nets. He’s from Idaho.

    Rate this comment: Thumb up 1

  10. TJ says:

    “This one being the ten worst cities for single people”

    Including gay or lesbian folks who want to be married or have civil unions. They HAVE to be single, and, no one counts those statistics, I bet.

    Rate this comment: Thumb up 1

  11. The yahoo piece mentions Durham as being one of its ten best places to live as a single, which is odd because I’ve never heard anyone speak of Durham in anything other than hushed tones, full of curses and woe.

    And this is not the first “good” list I’ve heard of Durham being on in the last few weeks. Is it possible they are spending money on someone who is pimping the city out to these sort of inane listmakers?

    Maybe Asheville should focus less on a BID and more on a DLPIC (Dumbass List Placement Improvement Coordinator)

    Rate this comment: Thumb up 2

  12. Davyne Dial says:

    Friday nite ponderings.

    I’m wondering if the fundamental difference between the hard right and the rest of us is, did we get “Spocked” and they didn’t? Back in the 1950s Dr. Benjamin Spock wrote a groundbreaking book, it was a common sense approach to baby and child care. It broke with common parental methods, of corporal punishment, children should be seen and not heard, and showing any affection will spoil them. Spock gave new Mothers a sensible but loving method of child rearing. I’m betting the hateful right wing extremists never got a hug or an atta boy from Momma or Daddy.

    Rate this comment: Thumb up 3

  13. Davyne Dial says:

    Correction…Spock’s book was published in the late ’40s.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Spock

    Rate this comment: Thumb up 2

  14. Andrew Dahm says:

    The City of Asheville needs to hire an Anthropologist.

    Rate this comment: Thumb up 1

  15. A. Chandler says:

    John Edwards should have been found guilty and sent to prison. He’s not only a horrible person, he’s a criminal. If he were a republican Dems would be raising 3 kinds of hell right now saying he got away with it and talking about how we need more accountability.

    Rate this comment: Thumb up 1

  16. shadmarsh says:

    The jury, apparently, disagreed.

    Rate this comment: Thumb up 2

  17. ChadEkre says:

    Technically he’s not a criminal and if being a horrible person was enough to be incarcerated then a lot more than 2.8 million Americans would be in prison right now.

    The Edwards mistrial seems less about a possible criminal offense and much more about how terribly off-course and inept the DOJ has become.

    Rate this comment: Thumb up 3

  18. RHS says:

    “John Edwards should have been found guilty and sent to prison. He’s not only a horrible person, he’s a criminal.”

    Let’s just dispense with the jury system altogether and let A. Chandler decide people’s guilt or innocence. I guess she heard ALL the evidence produced by both sides over the full course of this trial and is in a position to reach this emphatic conclusion.

    Rate this comment: Thumb up 3

  19. Davyne Dial says:

    Thing about Edwards is, his small town, clean cut boy from simple beginnings, sitting around the kitchen table wanting to do good, is gone forever. The whole world knows what a scoundrel he is. All the hidden shenanigans came out and he can no longer walk among decent men. He’s bought total dishonor to his reputation….and that will last till he’s dead. Some justices are well beyond the Courts to administer.

    Rate this comment: Thumb up 2

  20. Big Ivy says:

    Perhaps A. Chandler is not aware of the Tom Delay case.

    Rate this comment: Thumb up 1

  21. TJ says:

    ” He’s bought total dishonor to his reputation….and that will last till he’s dead. Some justices are well beyond the Courts to administer”

    Reminds me of the O.J. Simpson case. So many people upset about his getting off, some glad, many confused.

    No matter what, he couldn’t play a simple game of golf even after moving to another coast, without having to deal with the disapproval of his REAL peers – the rich and famous. Guess he could have gone back to L.A. and joined his fans, but, he didn’t see them as his peers or social circle.

    How the mighty have fallen. Maybe not in a prison cell, but, a prison, nevertheless.

    Rate this comment: Thumb up 0

  22. TJ says:

    “He’s not only a horrible person, he’s a criminal”

    Well, Chad, I think that number would be greater than your 2.8m guess.
    Now, if we could figure out how to make a justice system based upon a person’s character BEFORE they committed the crime, THAT would be interesting.

    Oh, yeah, Tom Cruise played that role in “The Minority Report.”

    Oh, and the NDAA kinda does that, huh?

    Well, sometimes, I wish it could happen, but, actually…not.

    Rate this comment: Thumb up 0

  23. RHS says:

    A good portion of what Edwards was accused of doing is now legal after Citizens United, so….

    In any case I, for one, do believe in redemption although, granted, some people have a much further road to travel in that regard than others.

    Rate this comment: Thumb up 0

  24. Davyne Dial says:

    Redemption is only if a miscreant fundamentally changes his ways…a sobbing mea culpa on the courthouse steps, is not renunciation. It’s just a man caught with his fly open.

    Rate this comment: Thumb up 1

  25. tatuaje says:

    The DOJ spent MILLIONS prosecuting John Edwards furthering one man’s political ambitions (http://tinyurl.com/7bwv9h3) yet how much has the DOJ spent to prosecute those on Wall St. who fleeced the world for billions?

    Thumb up 5

  26. RHS says:

    I am not saying that Edwards has redeemed himself, just that I am open to the possibility that he might.

    Rate this comment: Thumb up 0

  27. Dixiegirlz says:

    Excellent point, Tat.

    Rate this comment: Thumb up 1