Jun
15

The Damage Done

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TimesUnion.com:

“The North Carolina House voted early Wednesday to override Democratic Gov. Beverly Perdue’s historic veto of the state government budget for the next two years, completing the key step needed for the Republican majority to cancel her objections and enact the plan.”
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“It clears the path for the Republican-penned bill to be enacted later Wednesday, despite Perdue’s repeated and forceful objections.

She says it would deliver “generational damage” to public education and other services that residents rely upon…”
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“The override vote came hours before members of the North Carolina Association of Educators, a strong critic of the GOP budget plan were expected in Raleigh to hold a rally and bring pennies. They are symbolic of the temporary penny sales tax increase they say would preserve positions if the GOP extended the tax, which they didn’t.”


Comments

  1. Gordon Smith says:

    NC House OKs blocking low-interest college loans

    House gives first nod to drilling, fracking in NC

    House panel votes to scrap anti-toxic air program

    House Speaker breaks word on staff raises

    WRAL.com:

    Senate Bill 47, introduced with little notice in House Elections this afternoon, would repeal same-day registration in North Carolina, ban straight-ticket voting, shorten the early-voting period by a week, and ban early voting on Sundays (popular with churches for “Souls to the Polls” voting drives).

    It would also repeal publicly-financed elections for the Superintendent of Public Instruction, Insurance Commissioner and Treasurer.

    The measure also makes changes to campaign finance, creating a new type of account at political parties – a “headquarters” account – that could accept corporate money for operational support, though not for electioneering purposes.

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  2. TJ says:

    Sounds like the Republican opposition needs to have a crisis line to call and have on-call people available to respond to the anti-democracy, underhanded, hide-in-the-dark actions the clowns are pulling.

    Is there no recourse, no legal response to their actions? Or, can they just bully their way through people’s rights and lives, leaving the mess for disaster services to clean up for them?

    Maybe it’s time to try my hand in another country. At least, there is no illusion of democracy or fair play.

    Or- time for more people to stand up for themselves, before they aren’t allowed to anymore.

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  3. TJ says:

    Grand ideas! On to composing…

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  4. Gordon Smith says:

    Voting just got a lot harder, and parties raising money from corporate interests just got easier:

    “Senate Bill 47, introduced with little notice in House Elections this afternoon, would repeal same-day registration in North Carolina, ban straight-ticket voting, shorten the early-voting period by a week, and ban early voting on Sundays (popular with churches for “Souls to the Polls” voting drives).

    It would also repeal publicly-financed elections for the Superintendent of Public Instruction, Insurance Commissioner and Treasurer.

    The measure also makes changes to campaign finance, creating a new type of account at political parties – a “headquarters” account – that could accept corporate money for operational support, though not for electioneering purposes.”

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  5. Gordon Smith says:

    The Governor released a statement:

    Tonight, the Republican-controlled legislature turned its back on North Carolina’s long-standing commitment to our people to provide quality schools, community colleges and universities — all to save a penny. I vetoed the Republican General Assembly’s budget because I believe it will cause generational damage to this state. We must have a highly trained workforce for our state to be globally competitive, and that education begins in preschool classrooms and continues all the way through our community colleges and universities. They are all equally important.

    This budget is shortsighted and irresponsible. It cuts a full half billion dollars more out of education than I proposed in my budget. It not only damages our education system but also hurts public safety, our environment and our ability to care for those who need us most.

    Tonight the General Assembly may have undermined our schools, community colleges and universities. Tonight they may have cut our pre-k programs and turned our education system backwards. But tomorrow, the citizens of North Carolina and I will resume the fight for what we believe in – that education must be the one priority we never turn our backs on.

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  6. Tom Sullivan says:

    What our people need isn’t more jobs that pay better, it’s less government spending. That will keep people in their homes and put food on the table! [snark]

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  7. Tom Sullivan says:

    BTW: The housing price drop is now greater than the Great Depression:

    http://m.cnbc.com//id/43395857?utm_source=Daily+Digest&utm_campaign=e29a215f48-DD_6_156_15_2011&utm_medium=email

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  8. TJ says:

    “BTW: The housing price drop is now greater than the Great Depression:”

    It’s a sad thing to think that, in the manner older people do, we will look back at the Depression period as being “the good old days.”

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  9. Ben says:

    Weird how I keep hearing “we need to have faith in the free market” or “believe in the free market”…all this ‘faith’ and ‘trust’ is going to save us all! Come on man !
    Interesting This Week discussion between Robert Reich and AL Sen Shelby: http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/week-transcript-economy-panel/story?id=13822319&page=7

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  10. nathan ramsey says:

    Balanced budget, avoids a tax increase increase in excess of billion dollars, spending within $200M of what the Governor proposed, with bipartisan support, including funding of K-12 for all teachers & teachers assts. and adjourning to save $1M per month in legislative expenses. Additionally, here at home AB Tech can now argue with the upcoming sales tax vote that if approved, your sales tax will still be less than what it is now. Sounds like a good (not perfect) outcome in very difficult times.

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  11. Tim Schultz says:

    Nathan,

    I thought that the $200m difference was actually much larger given that the Highway Patrol had been relocated from the Transportation budget among other accounting tricks? This very blog had an article about how the difference was much larger but shifting around of certain allocations made it seem much closer to the Governor’s proposal when it was in fact not.

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  12. Doug Gibson says:

    Nathan,

    Your “$200 million” figure is obfious. As is the “funding of K-12 for all teachers and teachers’ assistants.”

    $200 million of the legislature’s general fund spending comes because they moved the Highway Patrol into the general fund and out of the transportation trust fund.

    And the flex cuts passed down to school systems pretty much guarantee that many teachers and assistants will get laid off in addition to administrative staff.

    By your own admission, we’re talking about at least $1 million less per county, on average, in K-12 education spending—and that’s on top of the 20% cut to Smart Start.

    Sounds like the worst possible outcome, given that at least a few Republicans need more than just Republican votes to get elected.

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  13. Keith Thomson says:

    Republicans are obfuscatin’ on thin ice. That includes Nathan.

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  14. nathan ramsey says:

    In Governor Perdue’s proposed budget, she recommended K-12 spending of $7.572 billion for the coming fiscal year, the NCGA budget will spend $7.464 billion net of any reversions, flex cuts or whatever you want to call them. The NCGA budget does spend about $100M less than what the Governor wanted but the difference is within 98-99% of her target. There is a greater differnce in the second year of the budget but if revenues are positive, then the spending amount will be increased in the short session. The NCGA budget also doesn’t take about $50M from public school capital projects that the Governor recommended taking from the counties. Five long time, loyal Democrats (several who are personally close to the Governor) thought it was sufficiently acceptable to vote for the NCGA budget and override the Governor’s veto.

    Governor’s proposed budget http://www.osbm.state.nc.us/files/pdf_files/budget2011-13_web_corrected.pdf

    NCGA adopted budget
    http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2011/Bills/House/PDF/H200v8.pdf

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  15. Doug Gibson says:

    Nathan,

    Again with the K-12 budget? With you it’s like state government does nothing else.

    Does the legislature’s budget cut four times more from Smart Start than Perdue’s or not?

    Does the legislature’s budget double Perdue’s cuts to health and human services or not?

    Does your top line figure of “only $200 million difference” accurately reflect the real differences between the two budgets or not?

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  16. nathan ramsey says:

    Comparison of the budgets
    UNC system Governor $2.657B/ NCGA $2.540B
    Community Colleges Governor $1.016B/ NCGA $985M
    DHHS Governor $4.715B/ NCGA $4.495B

    My understanding is that they will merge smart start & more at four, dramatically reducing the administrative overhead with much of the cuts mentioned attributed to the change in organizational structure.

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  17. Tom Sullivan says:

    @ Ben

    Funny you should mention it, but I brought some swag to give out to my friends at Netroots Nation here in Minneapolis. It’s a bumper sticker (as seen on my Barnum Was Right! Productions page on Facebook). It reads:

    Lost Your Job?
    Talk To The Invisible Hand

    (See, there’s a hand and stuff….) Available in stunning GOP red.

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  18. TJ says:

    “(See, there’s a hand and stuff….) Available in stunning GOP red.”

    Wish I could find one of those.

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  19. Doug Gibson says:

    Got it, Nathan. You think over $500,000,000 in additional cuts (see chart here) is insignificant.

    I guess I would have thought otherwise, and given the legerdemain with Highway Patrol funding in the legislature’s budget, I suspect that Tillis and Stam thought otherwise, too.

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  20. Keith Thomson says:

    Go read John Boyles’ take on Republican House Speakers generous raises for his staff, including raising his Chief of Staff Charles Thomas’ salary by “one teacher’s salary.” So much for austerity. (cue for Nathan Ramsey to justify these as business expenses)

    http://www.citizen-times.com/article/20110616/NEWS/306160022/John-Boyle-Salary-bumps-Tillis-staffers-an-insult-Asheville-teachers

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  21. Keith Thomson says:

    I rarely get angry, but it really chaps my shorts that Rep. Tim Moffitt and the Raleigh Republicans voted for deeply damaging cuts to early childhood education, teacher funding, dropout prevention, community colleges, and our universities, while he sends his kids to private school. There ought to be a law against that. IMHO. This is right-wing social engineering at its worst.

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  22. barry says:

    Go read John Boyles’ take on Republican House Speakers generous raises for his staff

    No no no no no no, they aren’t ‘raises’, according to Tillis. These $12,000 – $30,000 increases are “salary adjustments”. Giving staffers enormous ‘raises’ while laying off teachers would be bad. ‘Salary adjustments’ are just minor paperwork changes…

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  23. Ben says:

    Keith,
    yep – lots of things wrong with double-talkers. As long as the wealth gap continues to widen, certain groups are happy. I think the argument about middle America not spending because they are worried makes plenty of sense. AND putting all of the burden on Middle wage Americans to help the market recover while companies and the very wealthy are still making great profits right now, is just illogical. While we’re at it, lets’ kill public education, health care for kids, etc…sheesh, bad people…

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  24. Tom Sullivan says:

    Like the carpet bombing of Cambodia was only “counter-insurgency strikes”?

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  25. nathan ramsey says:

    Keith – I think you are mistaken, it is my understanding that Rep. Moffitt’s children attend Buncombe County Public Schools.

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  26. nathan ramsey says:

    Keith – Speaker Tillis has said the budget for his office would be 10% less than the budget for Speaker Hackney’s office. If that isn’t the case, I would urge the Speaker to make the adjustments necessary to reach the 10% cut.

    And to clarify, Rep. Moffitt has three kids, one just graduated from BC Middle College at AB Tech, one is a student at Cane Creek Middle, and the other is a student at TC Roberson HS.

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  27. barry says:

    News & Observer reports that:

    “…even assuming that those part-time workers in Hackney’s office worked full-time, Tillis’ payroll is still about 10 percent higher and his staff is larger.”

    Golly, he wouldn’t have lied to us, would he?

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  28. barry says:

    But but but things were supposed to be different under the Teabaggers.

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  29. barry says:

    AC-T reporting the voter ID bill is likely to get vetoed, and the Teapublicans couldn’t bribe any Democrats with pork to vote for THIS stinker (unlike the budget), so it looks like the veto will stick.

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  30. barry says:

    I watched that clip (the whole thing, not the 40 second edit shown on FauxNews), and he clearly didn’t think it was ‘fodder for a hilarious little joke’, but a grim reality he was trying to take responsibility for. The fact that the CEO of GE sitting next to him at the table laughed nervously doesn’t make him ‘callous’ or ‘aloof’.

    But heck, it’s the silly season, and those on the right will be scouring everything he says for some scrap they can twist into a morsel into an outrage into a scandal into a ‘gate’ into a hearing into an impeachment….

    Anything but actually do something to help the economy & put people to work, because that’s bad for them in Nov. 2012. Better that more people slip farther into poverty, so you can claim it was that damn Obammie.

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  31. TJ says:

    “Anything but actually do something to help the economy & put people to work, because that’s bad for them in Nov. 2012. Better that more people slip farther into poverty, so you can claim it was that damn Obammie.”

    But, Barry, that makes too much sense. Why try something that they may not find working, and have people upset with them, when they can just point their finger at someone else for their problems (which are inherited-for better or worse-from previous admins.).

    Path of least resistance, and all…

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  32. shelley says:

    There is a meeting with Senator Davis in Franklin at the Public Library Thursday the 23rd at 9:00am. It is open to anyone concerned about education in NC-and that should be everybody

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  33. RHS says:

    “I’d like one in Obama blue, since he thinks that “shovel-ready jobs turning out to be not as shovel-ready as we expected” is fodder for a hilarious little joke (told at his recent appearance in Durham). Oh, the outrage we’d hear if anyone else had been so callously aloof…”

    There has been little sound but the chirping of crickets over Mitt Romney’s recent crack to a group of out of work people in Florida that “I’m unemployed also.”

    Poor Mittens. It must be tough to be out of work trying to live off a net worth of rougly 200 million.

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  34. Keith Thomson says:

    Nathan,

    If Tim Moffitt’s kids do not go to Christ School, then I am mistaken, and will state that means he is a total stranger, even though he represents my district. So, I will repost my thought without having to rely on my outrage at that as my evidence of Moffitt’s shamefully misplaced priorities:

    I rarely get angry, but it really chaps my shorts that Rep. Tim Moffitt and the Raleigh Republicans voted for deeply damaging cuts to early childhood education, teacher funding, dropout prevention, community colleges, and our universities…

    ~while seeking $850,000 in DOT funding to tear out the median on Brevard Rd. to give a special deal to a prominent Republican Convenience store owner.

    ~ while Republicans are handing out huge raises to House staff members.

    ~ fill in the blanks.

    There ought to be a law against that. IMHO. This is right-wing social engineering at its worst.

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  35. nathan ramsey says:

    Keith – If you disagree with the NCGA budget, that’s fine we can debate that all day. It is unfortunate in your attacks to try to throw Rep. Moffitt’s kids in the middle of this.

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  36. barry says:

    Nathan

    If the rep. sends his kids to private school while chopping away at public education funding, then it’s fair game. It’s not “throwing his kids in the middle of it”, it’s about HIS choices & priorities, not them.

    However, if he sends his kids to public school, then it’s moot anyway.

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  37. nathan ramsey says:

    His children are attending public schools and Rep. Moffitt attended public schools. But from the critics point of view it is irrelevant, it doesn’t matter if you went to public school and your kids go to public school, they will continue to say you don’t support public schools because the adopted NCGA budget only funded 99.5% of what the Governor had requested. So now that this line of questioning is moot, they’ll just figure out some other angle, whether it is based on facts or not, to critize Rep. Moffitt. That’s politics, if your opponent can’t find something to go after you based on legitimate factual policy differences, they’ll make up stuff.

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  38. barry says:

    That’s politics, if your opponent can’t find something to go after you based on legitimate factual policy differences, they’ll make up stuff.

    You’re saying you think we need to make stuff up to rally public opinion against Tim Moffitt? Nathan, I never knew you were funny.

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  39. nathan ramsey says:

    Apparently so.

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  40. RHS says:

    “That’s politics, if your opponent can’t find something to go after you based on legitimate factual policy differences, they’ll make up stuff.”

    You mean like heath care reform having “death panels?” Or President Obama not being born in the US, or him being a Muslim?

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  41. barry says:

    You mean like heath care reform having “death panels?” Or President Obama not being born in the US, or him being a Muslim?

    Well, to be fair, those things weren’t “made up”. FauxNews actually did hear those things, from some guy.

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  42. Keith Thomson says:

    Nathan,

    As I consider you one of my Republican friends whom I have always shared a great deal of mutual respect, I trust that you do not honestly believe I was attacking Representative Moffitt’s children in any way, shape or form.

    I honestly wish over the last three years there would have been more opportunity to get to know Rep. Moffitt and understand what makes him tick. In these last two elections in which he stood for the House seat representing my district, he has chosen not to attend public candidate appearances/fora in which I participated. His non-response to invitations to two Asheville Civitan Club candidate fora was disappointing, and left a hole of otherwise successful events. Neither of his fellow Republicans, my fellow Civitans John Carroll, and former Senator and County Commissioner Jesse Ledbetter were successful in their efforts to arrange for his acceptance of our invitation.

    I always assumed Mr. Moffitt must be a shy person who prefers to be exposed only to crowds that are already vetted as his supporters. I have since learned that he is not shy of bold initiatives to change the way things work, but I still little evidence of his willingness to discuss these initiatives with those who might disagree. I have concluded this to be a flaw in his character.

    My understanding that some of his children are enrolled at Christ School was, I assure you, an honest mistake. I trust your assurance that is not the case.

    Honest Buncombe County and North Carolina citizens can disagree over issues. We can also disagree over the people we wish to elect to represent us in public office.

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  43. nathan ramsey says:

    Keith – I respect your involvement in the community and passionate support for our schools. Just don’t think where an elected official sends their kids to school is relevant on any level. If I was ever blessed to have kids of my own, most likely they would attend BCS just like I did but if they didn’t, it would not be a reflection of my lack of support for public schools.

    We would all like our schools to have more resources, unfortunately right now we are in a terrible recession that has changed most of our lives and governments at every level aren’t able to provide the support to our schools that they did five years ago when unemployment was 4% and the economy was booming.

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  44. barry says:

    I still little evidence of his willingness to discuss these initiatives with those who might disagree.

    Two other episodes come to mind – 1) Moffitt’s failure to even mention his bill seizing Asheville’s water system to Asheville’s City Manager and two Council members, after they drove four hours to meet with him in Raleigh on local legislative issues in May (one day before he introduced the bill in the GA), and 2) his flat refusal to talk about his County Commissioner district elections bill, during a public meeting he held with his constituents.

    This is someone who apparently can’t even make the case for his actions, or face the people who are affected by those actions. Really not the way ‘representative democracy’ is supposed to work.

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  45. Keith Thomson says:

    Dear Nathan,

    I will testify that your support for Asheville City and Buncombe County Schools, while you were the Chair of the Buncombe County Commission was exemplary. You were always reaching out among those who might not agree with you on every issue, but nonetheless you earned our respect.

    That being said, if we keep the 1 cent sales tax from expiring, we can keep more of the state level funding for early childhood education, teachers and assistants, dropout prevention, community colleges, and our universities.

    We have been required to trim and cut to get through the last four years of the worst recession in our lifetimes. But, our children will not wait to grow up, and we must find the courage to follow in the footsteps of our grandparents in investing in public education, even, or perhaps most especially, during hard times. THAT is what has kept North Carolina head and shoulders above our Southern neighbors, until now, with this disgraceful budget. Thank G-d for Mississippi can no longer be used to reassure us of despite how poor we might have been or will be, we were always better at meeting this obligation than MS.

    Just my $.02, among friends.

    Keith

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  46. TJ says:

    ” If I was ever blessed to have kids of my own, most likely they would attend BCS just like I did but if they didn’t, it would not be a reflection of my lack of support for public schools.”

    My kids didn’t, but it was because of what I saw as a lack of support for a strong educational system, not because I don’t believe in it. My son will go to SILSA next year, but it worries me with all the funding issues going on. I’m hoping I don’t have to pull him out, to ensure he gets the education he deserves.

    EVERY child deserves a quality education, and it should be a pulling of teeth to get the school adequate funds and recognition. I don’t remember where it was from now, but there is a quote related to the idea that the character of a nation can be judged in the way it treats it’s weakest members (and that includes children).

    I think it is SHAMEFUL how politicians “care so much” about our nation’s future, yet will not ensure the people inheriting the future are well-prepared.

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  47. RHS says:

    “We would all like our schools to have more resources, unfortunately right now we are in a terrible recession that has changed most of our lives and governments at every level aren’t able to provide the support to our schools that they did five years ago when unemployment was 4% and the economy was booming.”

    But the Speaker is able to provide raises — opps, excuse me “salary adjustments” for his staff.

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  48. TJ says:

    “EVERY child deserves a quality education, and it should be a pulling of teeth to get the school adequate funds and recognition. ”

    Oops, my mistake. I meant it should NOT BE LIKE puling teeth…

    Oh, well, it’s Friday night, and I’ve been up since 3 am…so I don’t feel too badly about this poor example of the excellent education I received ;-)

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  49. RHS says:

    “They don’t care about kids. They don’t care about classrooms. They only care about their jobs and their pensions.” — Thom Tilis, Speaker of the NC House on school teachers.

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  50. TJ says:

    “They don’t care about kids. They don’t care about classrooms. They only care about their jobs and their pensions.” — Thom Tilis, Speaker of the NC House on school teachers.”

    WOW! Rendered almost speechless. ::::ugh::::

    What IS that man’s email address??!

    I’ll send a few dozen video clips of how my kids teachers don’t care about the kids and classrooms. I’ll also have a few teachers I know send him copies of receipts of things they paid for out of their own pockets to be sure everyone had school supplies (including kids from low-income homes), and the proof of purchase of hundreds of Ingles cards each year they give out to any family with children-with a separate one for each child. Or, how they rallied around one family when they lost their home in a fire, and another, whose husband was shot at an Asheville plant, and the support they still give… most importantly, emotionally, and always-ALWAYS, working to make our school a real community.

    Boy, he’s got some nerve!

    Are they supposed to demonstrate ANY level of competency and understanding when they get those political positions?? If I have to pass an exam to be licensed, surely they must…

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  51. barry says:

    “They don’t care about kids. They don’t care about classrooms. They only care about their jobs and their pensions.”

    Sometimes politicians forget about recording devices, or they don’t know the mics are on (“David can obfuscate more than anybody I know.”), and they reveal who they really are. Or sometimes, they just don’t care who knows it. That’s the scariest thing about this quote. Tillis said this at the NC GOP Convention, and he got a lot of applause, apparently.

    This attitude is starting to permeate the NC Republicans: teachers are bad. It’s not just that the system is out of whack & needs to be changed in their opinion – it’s open season on the teachers themselves now. “Teachers are just greedy and they don’t care about your kids.”

    Nathan, you’re our Spinmeister General. Help us understand how these aren’t hateful, lying bastards you’ve elected.

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  52. TJ says:

    And, then, there’s the RLC, with Troy Terrell, a La. Senate candidate (R), talking about how we live in a wicked, selfish nation, and that we(America) need conservatives to send Obama back home “where he belongs,” how he believes we need to get back “values” because this “wicked nation” is obviously lost and in need of his brand of salvation. For being a political event, it sounded more religious than most churches I have been to (of course, I tend to avoid some denominations, to be honest).

    I guess teachers would be part of what he considers a “wicked, selfish” part of our nation. This reminds me of this song:

    “You’ve got to be taught
    To hate and fear,
    You’ve got to be taught
    From year to year,
    It’s got to be drummed
    In your dear little ear
    You’ve got to be carefully taught.

    You’ve got to be taught to be afraid
    Of people whose eyes are oddly made,
    And people whose skin is a diff’rent shade,
    You’ve got to be carefully taught.

    You’ve got to be taught before it’s too late,
    Before you are six or seven or eight,
    To hate all the people your relatives hate,
    You’ve got to be carefully taught!”
    -Rodgers and Hammerstein “South Pacific

    Let’s be sure to vote in those leaders that will teach our children to hate…. can’t have those free, critical thinkers running around, can we?!

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  53. barry says:

    And lest we forget, ‘leader’ Tillis fired between 6 and 7 of those “greedy” teachers & divvied up their salaries to his own staff.

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  54. RHS says:

    I find it pretty rich hearing gripes about how “selfish” the country has become from a member of the party that worships Ayn Rand.

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