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	<title>Comments on: Live chat for Asheville City Council 02/09/2010</title>
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		<title>By: David Cohen</title>
		<link>http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2010/02/09/live-chat-for-asheville-city-council-02092010/comment-page-1/#comment-39181</link>
		<dc:creator>David Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It DOES  come down to our individual filters. I can come up with something snarky to say about just everyone who posts here. Ralph, Jim, Michael, Gordon, Alan, Shad, Barry.....As I watched the Council meeting and read the live chat, I too was struck as to how much the chat was starting to resemble some of the worst trolling on the C-T website or even Stomperland.
The old adage about bringing it down to your attacker&#039;s level by matching his snarkiness is true.
I&#039;m not saying that I don&#039;t get annoyed by some of the commenters on this blog; I AM saying that it is better to keep my snarks to myself, and in the future, I hope that the conversation can stay civil and focus on the issues and not on a drinking game whose only purpose is to belittle someone.
In the spirit of full disclosure, I said some snarky things last week on this site, and if I offended any one, I apologise and will try to hold myself to the standards that I have set out above. 
The live chat otherwise was a very good adjunct to watching the live television coverage, and I was TOTALLY impressed with the two women police officers for coming forward with their stories. I have to assume that they were not coming out for the first time at Council, but if either of them was, WOW!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="background-color:#FFFFCC !important"><p>It DOES  come down to our individual filters. I can come up with something snarky to say about just everyone who posts here. Ralph, Jim, Michael, Gordon, Alan, Shad, Barry&#8230;..As I watched the Council meeting and read the live chat, I too was struck as to how much the chat was starting to resemble some of the worst trolling on the C-T website or even Stomperland.<br />
The old adage about bringing it down to your attacker&#8217;s level by matching his snarkiness is true.<br />
I&#8217;m not saying that I don&#8217;t get annoyed by some of the commenters on this blog; I AM saying that it is better to keep my snarks to myself, and in the future, I hope that the conversation can stay civil and focus on the issues and not on a drinking game whose only purpose is to belittle someone.<br />
In the spirit of full disclosure, I said some snarky things last week on this site, and if I offended any one, I apologise and will try to hold myself to the standards that I have set out above.<br />
The live chat otherwise was a very good adjunct to watching the live television coverage, and I was TOTALLY impressed with the two women police officers for coming forward with their stories. I have to assume that they were not coming out for the first time at Council, but if either of them was, WOW!</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Summers</title>
		<link>http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2010/02/09/live-chat-for-asheville-city-council-02092010/comment-page-1/#comment-39177</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Summers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 06:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;â€œThereâ€™s only one rule that I know of, babies â€” God damn it, youâ€™ve got to be kind.â€&lt;/b&gt; SH Comments Policy.

I&#039;m afraid I agree with Alan, in that the criticism towards him during the live chat crossed the line into the &#039;unkind&#039;. He annoys me too sometimes, but he shows up, he has things to say, and he&#039;s not &lt;i&gt;always&lt;/i&gt; wrong.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m afraid I agree with Alan, in that the criticism towards him during the live chat crossed the line into the &#8216;unkind&#8217;. He annoys me too sometimes, but he shows up, he has things to say, and he&#8217;s not <i>always</i> wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Shura</title>
		<link>http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2010/02/09/live-chat-for-asheville-city-council-02092010/comment-page-1/#comment-39172</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Shura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 03:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will someone please get Alan a child. Just one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="background-color:#FFF0F5 !important"><p>Will someone please get Alan a child. Just one?</p>
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		<title>By: shadmarsh</title>
		<link>http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2010/02/09/live-chat-for-asheville-city-council-02092010/comment-page-1/#comment-39161</link>
		<dc:creator>shadmarsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>will someone get Alan a tissue please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="background-color:#FFF0F5 !important"><p>will someone get Alan a tissue please.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Smith</title>
		<link>http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2010/02/09/live-chat-for-asheville-city-council-02092010/comment-page-1/#comment-39159</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have nothing to do with the liveblog, Alan.  I was at the meeting with you.

(If you don&#039;t like the way things work around here, you don&#039;t have to visit.  There is also the option of starting your own blog where you can make the rules.)

You haven&#039;t been censored, though finding fancy new IP addresses to get around Admin&#039;s disemvoweling is very tricksy.  You&#039;ve never been labeled as &quot;troll&quot; that I&#039;ve seen.

Lastly, I imagine there are very few who escape your keen eye for hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="background-color:#FFF0F5 !important"><p>I have nothing to do with the liveblog, Alan.  I was at the meeting with you.</p>
<p>(If you don&#8217;t like the way things work around here, you don&#8217;t have to visit.  There is also the option of starting your own blog where you can make the rules.)</p>
<p>You haven&#8217;t been censored, though finding fancy new IP addresses to get around Admin&#8217;s disemvoweling is very tricksy.  You&#8217;ve never been labeled as &#8220;troll&#8221; that I&#8217;ve seen.</p>
<p>Lastly, I imagine there are very few who escape your keen eye for hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see the bloggers have no problem with personal attacks on the live chat, at least from and at the right people, and that Gordon has no problem endorsing them.  Though of course if I wrote the same things about them I would be censored as a troll, Hypocrites!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="background-color:#FFFFCC !important"><p> s th blggrs hv n prblm wth prsnl ttcks n th lv cht, t lst frm nd t th rght ppl, nd tht Grdn hs n prblm ndrsng thm.  Thgh f crs f  wrt th sm thngs bt thm  wld b cnsrd s  trll, Hypcrts!</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Summers</title>
		<link>http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2010/02/09/live-chat-for-asheville-city-council-02092010/comment-page-1/#comment-39141</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Summers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 06:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul

With all due respect, you &lt;i&gt;never&lt;/i&gt; explained to me why you felt a Facebook login was so necessary. I asked for specifics, and your private response to me amounted to simply restating the need to police uncivil comments. I wanted to understand how a FB login ensured that, and why you seemed so intent on making it a requirement, as opposed to simply moderating things directly, and you never acknowledged the question, much less answered it. 

The fact that you made the non-FB login available this time would seem to show that it isn&#039;t as indispensable as you made it seem a couple of weeks ago. And that&#039;s all I was trying to get - an option for &lt;i&gt;anyone&lt;/i&gt; who doesn&#039;t want to have to sign up with FB, &lt;i&gt;not just me&lt;/i&gt;. I&#039;m glad you decided to provide that option.

Yes, I reacted badly when you opened up the chat with a dismissive &quot;certain people are scared â€œThe Manâ€ is stalking them&quot; comment. That wasn&#039;t a fair or respectful characterization of my concerns, or the others who questioned the need for Facebook.

My suggestion to you: maybe don&#039;t treat someone asking questions as someone you have to song &amp; dance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="background-color:#FFFFCC !important"><p>Paul</p>
<p>With all due respect, you <i>never</i> explained to me why you felt a Facebook login was so necessary. I asked for specifics, and your private response to me amounted to simply restating the need to police uncivil comments. I wanted to understand how a FB login ensured that, and why you seemed so intent on making it a requirement, as opposed to simply moderating things directly, and you never acknowledged the question, much less answered it. </p>
<p>The fact that you made the non-FB login available this time would seem to show that it isn&#8217;t as indispensable as you made it seem a couple of weeks ago. And that&#8217;s all I was trying to get &#8211; an option for <i>anyone</i> who doesn&#8217;t want to have to sign up with FB, <i>not just me</i>. I&#8217;m glad you decided to provide that option.</p>
<p>Yes, I reacted badly when you opened up the chat with a dismissive &#8220;certain people are scared â€œThe Manâ€ is stalking them&#8221; comment. That wasn&#8217;t a fair or respectful characterization of my concerns, or the others who questioned the need for Facebook.</p>
<p>My suggestion to you: maybe don&#8217;t treat someone asking questions as someone you have to song &amp; dance.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Reeves</title>
		<link>http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2010/02/09/live-chat-for-asheville-city-council-02092010/comment-page-1/#comment-39140</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Reeves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 06:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://unusualkentucky.blogspot.com/2008/10/black-helicopters-in-kentucky.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FACT&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="background-color:#FFF0F5 !important"><p><a href="http://unusualkentucky.blogspot.com/2008/10/black-helicopters-in-kentucky.html" rel="nofollow">FACT</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Smith</title>
		<link>http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2010/02/09/live-chat-for-asheville-city-council-02092010/comment-page-1/#comment-39137</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best live blog ever, y&#039;all.  Well done.  So glad you were here in community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="background-color:#FFF0F5 !important"><p>Best live blog ever, y&#8217;all.  Well done.  So glad you were here in community.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Buckner</title>
		<link>http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2010/02/09/live-chat-for-asheville-city-council-02092010/comment-page-1/#comment-39132</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Buckner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is everbody so sure they haint no black heliocopters?

Fact! Heliocopters exist.
Fact! Black paint exists.
Fact! Paint will stick to heliocopters.
Fact! Black heliocopters are often used to abduct people who try to warn the public abou</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="background-color:#FFF0F5 !important"><p>Why is everbody so sure they haint no black heliocopters?</p>
<p>Fact! Heliocopters exist.<br />
Fact! Black paint exists.<br />
Fact! Paint will stick to heliocopters.<br />
Fact! Black heliocopters are often used to abduct people who try to warn the public abou</p>
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		<title>By: diogenes</title>
		<link>http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2010/02/09/live-chat-for-asheville-city-council-02092010/comment-page-1/#comment-39129</link>
		<dc:creator>diogenes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this &#039;the man&#039; to which you refer?

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10448060-38.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="background-color:#FFFFCC !important"><p>Is this &#8216;the man&#8217; to which you refer?</p>
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		<title>By: brainshrub</title>
		<link>http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2010/02/09/live-chat-for-asheville-city-council-02092010/comment-page-1/#comment-39126</link>
		<dc:creator>brainshrub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) How would anyone know I was referring to you unless you said something?

2) I&#039;ve explained why fb login is required repeatedly. When I found an elegant solution just for you - you upped your demand that FB login be dropped for everyone.

My suggestion: Let snark roll off your back and be thankful so many people at SH, including myself, respect your opinion enough to try and accommodate you.

- pvh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="background-color:#FFF0F5 !important"><p>1) How would anyone know I was referring to you unless you said something?</p>
<p>2) I&#8217;ve explained why fb login is required repeatedly. When I found an elegant solution just for you &#8211; you upped your demand that FB login be dropped for everyone.</p>
<p>My suggestion: Let snark roll off your back and be thankful so many people at SH, including myself, respect your opinion enough to try and accommodate you.</p>
<p>- pvh</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Summers</title>
		<link>http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2010/02/09/live-chat-for-asheville-city-council-02092010/comment-page-1/#comment-39125</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Summers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;This week, as an experiment, and because certain people are scared â€œThe Manâ€ is stalking them, Facebook Logins are not required.&lt;/b&gt;

You don&#039;t have to be a dick about it, Paul. I asked a simple, legitimate question: &quot;Why Facebook? How does requiring it help facilitate this discussion?&quot; I never, ever got a straight answer. What I got was ridicule and circular reasoning. &quot;We&#039;re requiring Facebook because people will post nasty things otherwise.&quot; &quot;How does Facebook prevent that?&quot; &quot;You should see the nasty things people are trying to post.&quot;

Thanks for the condescension, but no thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="background-color:#FFF0F5 !important"><p><b>This week, as an experiment, and because certain people are scared â€œThe Manâ€ is stalking them, Facebook Logins are not required.</b></p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to be a dick about it, Paul. I asked a simple, legitimate question: &#8220;Why Facebook? How does requiring it help facilitate this discussion?&#8221; I never, ever got a straight answer. What I got was ridicule and circular reasoning. &#8220;We&#8217;re requiring Facebook because people will post nasty things otherwise.&#8221; &#8220;How does Facebook prevent that?&#8221; &#8220;You should see the nasty things people are trying to post.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for the condescension, but no thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Roberts</title>
		<link>http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2010/02/09/live-chat-for-asheville-city-council-02092010/comment-page-1/#comment-39124</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>queue, even</description>
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		<title>By: Ralph Roberts</title>
		<link>http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2010/02/09/live-chat-for-asheville-city-council-02092010/comment-page-1/#comment-39123</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The moderation que, of course, will make it easier for The Man to dispatch his black helicopters and catch you sitting there waiting for your message to pop up.

Best to use Facebook - social media confuses The Man and causes his black helicopters to wobble in flight.</description>
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