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	<title>Comments on: Losing The Narrative Battle: Progressives Need To Turn Pro</title>
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		<title>By: Michael Muller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Muller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any of it, Jim. Any of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any of it, Jim. Any of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Reeves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Reeves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 17:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What change?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What change?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Muller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Muller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 14:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It comes down to this: the primary motivations for civic action are Love and Fear...and Fear is by far the stronger of the two.

Fear has been at the core of every conservative argument for the last 50 years: fear of Commies, fear of Blacks, fear of Fags, fear of Wetbacks, fear of Socialism, fear of Women, fear of Atheists, fear of Muslims, fear of Anything Different. Fear of Change.

And it&#039;s far easer to craft a message around hate and fear. Just ask Joseph Goebbels, Jesse Helms, Richard Viguerie, Terry Dolan, Morton Blackwell, Lee Atwater, Karl Rove, Glenn Beck, and Rush Limbaugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It comes down to this: the primary motivations for civic action are Love and Fear&#8230;and Fear is by far the stronger of the two.</p>
<p>Fear has been at the core of every conservative argument for the last 50 years: fear of Commies, fear of Blacks, fear of Fags, fear of Wetbacks, fear of Socialism, fear of Women, fear of Atheists, fear of Muslims, fear of Anything Different. Fear of Change.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s far easer to craft a message around hate and fear. Just ask Joseph Goebbels, Jesse Helms, Richard Viguerie, Terry Dolan, Morton Blackwell, Lee Atwater, Karl Rove, Glenn Beck, and Rush Limbaugh.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Expressive.  Got it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Expressive.  Got it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Reeves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Reeves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 15:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just putting out the facts...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just putting out the facts&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 15:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

Just checking in. Are you intending to be persuasive or simply expressive?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>Just checking in. Are you intending to be persuasive or simply expressive?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Reeves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Reeves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 15:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>going to take a LOT of Democrat spin doctors&#039; efforts to put lipstick on these pigs:   &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&amp;plckScript=blogScript&amp;plckElementId=blogDest&amp;plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&amp;plckPostId=Blog%3A27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3A07d043ca-ceaf-4d4b-a260-7a4c0f59d581&amp;plckCommentSortOrder=TimeStampAscending&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;covert war spending&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/02/obamas-budget-a.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;more taxes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&amp;sid=aiaDbSX1Ziwg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;overspending&lt;/a&gt;but the lapdog media is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2010/20100203152216.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;trying&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>going to take a LOT of Democrat spin doctors&#8217; efforts to put lipstick on these pigs:   <a href="http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&amp;plckScript=blogScript&amp;plckElementId=blogDest&amp;plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&amp;plckPostId=Blog%3A27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3A07d043ca-ceaf-4d4b-a260-7a4c0f59d581&amp;plckCommentSortOrder=TimeStampAscending" rel="nofollow">covert war spending</a>  <a href="http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/02/obamas-budget-a.html" rel="nofollow">more taxes</a><a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&amp;sid=aiaDbSX1Ziwg" rel="nofollow">overspending</a>but the lapdog media is <a href="http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2010/20100203152216.aspx" rel="nofollow">trying</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim Reeves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Reeves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 02:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lie?                                                                          WAR - YES! now including Pakistan                                               ECONOMY - as before NO BANKER LEFT BEHIND                                       JOBS - NOT UNLESS YOU LIVE IN CHINA                                             GLOBAL GOVERNMENT - Security and Prosperity Partnership LIVES!, GLOBAL BANKING AGREEMENT,CAP and TRADE,ETC.ETC.                                                PHONY TERRORISM - underwear bomber helped onto the plane with covert government assistance                                                                      BILL of RIGHTS -  NOPE, STILL NOT APPLICABLE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lie?                                                                          WAR &#8211; YES! now including Pakistan                                               ECONOMY &#8211; as before NO BANKER LEFT BEHIND                                       JOBS &#8211; NOT UNLESS YOU LIVE IN CHINA                                             GLOBAL GOVERNMENT &#8211; Security and Prosperity Partnership LIVES!, GLOBAL BANKING AGREEMENT,CAP and TRADE,ETC.ETC.                                                PHONY TERRORISM &#8211; underwear bomber helped onto the plane with covert government assistance                                                                      BILL of RIGHTS &#8211;  NOPE, STILL NOT APPLICABLE</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Buckner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Buckner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post, Tom! Money is a perennial problem for progressives precisely because they&#039;re on the side of those who don&#039;t have the money. $11 million a year is a pile to you and me but to someone like Charles Koch it&#039;s pocket change (he&#039;s worth $17 billion -2008 estimate).

I recall reading where a progressive organizer referred to the Tea Party bus, saying &quot;we never had a shiny new bus with flashy graphics at any of our rallies.&quot;

There&#039;s nothing wrong with progressive ideas about governance, but the opposition is implacable and well supplied, and cynically willing to wreck the government if that will keep it from being used to progressive ends; hence the strategy of appointing saboteurs to run programs they don&#039;t believe in, like Bill Bennett in Education or Christine Todd Whitman at the EPA. To our conservative readers, imagine if Obama had appointed Jane Fonda as Secretary of Defense: it&#039;s like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="background-color:#FFFFCC !important"><p>Good post, Tom! Money is a perennial problem for progressives precisely because they&#8217;re on the side of those who don&#8217;t have the money. $11 million a year is a pile to you and me but to someone like Charles Koch it&#8217;s pocket change (he&#8217;s worth $17 billion -2008 estimate).</p>
<p>I recall reading where a progressive organizer referred to the Tea Party bus, saying &#8220;we never had a shiny new bus with flashy graphics at any of our rallies.&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing wrong with progressive ideas about governance, but the opposition is implacable and well supplied, and cynically willing to wreck the government if that will keep it from being used to progressive ends; hence the strategy of appointing saboteurs to run programs they don&#8217;t believe in, like Bill Bennett in Education or Christine Todd Whitman at the EPA. To our conservative readers, imagine if Obama had appointed Jane Fonda as Secretary of Defense: it&#8217;s like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 13:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Writ,

Your comments remind me of Tom Buckner&#039;s recent post on game theory.  If we play to win the debate on the issue while they&#039;re playing to completely and utterly discredit our issue argument, character, and political philosophy in order to enact some unspoken goal - then we&#039;re losing.

It&#039;s a conundrum, indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Writ,</p>
<p>Your comments remind me of Tom Buckner&#8217;s recent post on game theory.  If we play to win the debate on the issue while they&#8217;re playing to completely and utterly discredit our issue argument, character, and political philosophy in order to enact some unspoken goal &#8211; then we&#8217;re losing.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a conundrum, indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Sullivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 12:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you say &quot;death panels&quot;? Sure, I knew you could.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you say &#8220;death panels&#8221;? Sure, I knew you could.</p>
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		<title>By: writ of summons</title>
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		<dc:creator>writ of summons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 11:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom,

I believe you are correct.  Progressives need to be able to articulate their message in short, effective narratives if they want to win hearts and minds of the public at large.  Or at least not lose them to the Conservative narrative machine.

Just yesterday, the main story was the testimony of military leaders on repealing Don&#039;t Ask, Don&#039;t Tell (DADT) so that homosexuals can lawfully serve in the military.  Out came the lunatics who not only want to reverse the status quo, going back prior to DADT, but they also want to overturn Lawrence v. Texas and many other civil rights so that they can outlaw homosexuality.  They &quot;boldly&quot; put forth the view that the homosexual is a rampant deviant and allowing homosexuals to serve openly in the military will lead to unmitigated shower rape, barracks rape and a host of other sexual problems in the &quot;intimate&quot; setting of combat life (intimate being their word not mine).  Here it comes. &lt;i&gt;Obama wants to turn Don&#039;t Ask Don&#039;t Tell into Don&#039;t Drop The Soap!  Or, Teh gays think there are no heterosexuals in foxholes!&lt;/i&gt; Lewd, born of complete ignorance and hate, and totally insulting and demeaning to all the professionals who serve us today, especially those whom are homosexual, and of course insulting to so many more.  Yet, we will see the Conservative narrative machine &lt;i&gt;boldly&lt;/i&gt; kick into high gear spewing such tripe on this one.  While we Progressives have the truth on our side on this (and a few more...), I agree we are probably not prepared with a narrative.  I will just try this one: If the purpose of our military is to &quot;fight and win wars&quot;, then surely we should expect those in the military to act like grown-ups.

There is a dilemma here.  We want to fight fire with fire.  But these Conservative message mongers just plain and simply LIE.  THEY JUST LIE!!!!  THEY ARE JUST A BUNCH OF LIARS!!!!!  The most effective narratives from the right are JUST PLAIN AND SIMPLY A HOUSE OF CARDS, A STACK OF LIES!!!!  From death panels and socialism to the Republican fiscal conservatism and now, the comment just above mine, no. 15.  This comment is a total lie, a lie recently spoken by none other than liar Roger Ailes himself.  So I think the question is, if Progressives don&#039;t want to lie, and I assume most don&#039;t want to, how do they message truthfully?

-writ

PS. The bit &quot;The purpose of our military is to fight and win wars.&quot; was Dubya campaign speak from 2000.  It resonated as our CEO would-be President dazzled audiences with his ability to simplify things.  Last night I heard a former soldier counter the Dubya-ism with, &quot;The purpose of our military is to defend our country.&quot;  It made me think that even there, a contest between two short mission statements is where the battle of narratives begins.  One statement leads to a narrative that puts our country on a path of fighting &lt;i&gt;unprovoked offensive wars&lt;/i&gt;.  The other attempts to preserve our general traditional (or conservative) use of deterrence against attack, and then fighting only when attacked.  Here, the Conservative message machine was used to get Conservatives to act in ways that aren&#039;t conservative.  There are other examples.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,</p>
<p>I believe you are correct.  Progressives need to be able to articulate their message in short, effective narratives if they want to win hearts and minds of the public at large.  Or at least not lose them to the Conservative narrative machine.</p>
<p>Just yesterday, the main story was the testimony of military leaders on repealing Don&#8217;t Ask, Don&#8217;t Tell (DADT) so that homosexuals can lawfully serve in the military.  Out came the lunatics who not only want to reverse the status quo, going back prior to DADT, but they also want to overturn Lawrence v. Texas and many other civil rights so that they can outlaw homosexuality.  They &#8220;boldly&#8221; put forth the view that the homosexual is a rampant deviant and allowing homosexuals to serve openly in the military will lead to unmitigated shower rape, barracks rape and a host of other sexual problems in the &#8220;intimate&#8221; setting of combat life (intimate being their word not mine).  Here it comes. <i>Obama wants to turn Don&#8217;t Ask Don&#8217;t Tell into Don&#8217;t Drop The Soap!  Or, Teh gays think there are no heterosexuals in foxholes!</i> Lewd, born of complete ignorance and hate, and totally insulting and demeaning to all the professionals who serve us today, especially those whom are homosexual, and of course insulting to so many more.  Yet, we will see the Conservative narrative machine <i>boldly</i> kick into high gear spewing such tripe on this one.  While we Progressives have the truth on our side on this (and a few more&#8230;), I agree we are probably not prepared with a narrative.  I will just try this one: If the purpose of our military is to &#8220;fight and win wars&#8221;, then surely we should expect those in the military to act like grown-ups.</p>
<p>There is a dilemma here.  We want to fight fire with fire.  But these Conservative message mongers just plain and simply LIE.  THEY JUST LIE!!!!  THEY ARE JUST A BUNCH OF LIARS!!!!!  The most effective narratives from the right are JUST PLAIN AND SIMPLY A HOUSE OF CARDS, A STACK OF LIES!!!!  From death panels and socialism to the Republican fiscal conservatism and now, the comment just above mine, no. 15.  This comment is a total lie, a lie recently spoken by none other than liar Roger Ailes himself.  So I think the question is, if Progressives don&#8217;t want to lie, and I assume most don&#8217;t want to, how do they message truthfully?</p>
<p>-writ</p>
<p>PS. The bit &#8220;The purpose of our military is to fight and win wars.&#8221; was Dubya campaign speak from 2000.  It resonated as our CEO would-be President dazzled audiences with his ability to simplify things.  Last night I heard a former soldier counter the Dubya-ism with, &#8220;The purpose of our military is to defend our country.&#8221;  It made me think that even there, a contest between two short mission statements is where the battle of narratives begins.  One statement leads to a narrative that puts our country on a path of fighting <i>unprovoked offensive wars</i>.  The other attempts to preserve our general traditional (or conservative) use of deterrence against attack, and then fighting only when attacked.  Here, the Conservative message machine was used to get Conservatives to act in ways that aren&#8217;t conservative.  There are other examples.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Reeves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Reeves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 02:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the Democrats&#039;problem is that the only thing voters wanted last election is someone who is not Bush, but they got instead a more eloquent version of him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="background-color:#FFFFCC !important"><p>the Democrats&#8217;problem is that the only thing voters wanted last election is someone who is not Bush, but they got instead a more eloquent version of him.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Sullivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 02:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ralph, I vote for A. That&#039;s why I suggest getting serious -- professional, even -- about messaging, not just Googling for data. Progressives don&#039;t seem to know the difference. That&#039;s why the right regularly eats their lunch. The right invests in, trains and nurtures their activists while the left expects theirs to live on slaves&#039; wages. 

Progressives need to fund their own if they expect to compete. 

I have tried, in my own &lt;a href=&quot;http://bluecentury.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;modest way.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ralph, I vote for A. That&#8217;s why I suggest getting serious &#8212; professional, even &#8212; about messaging, not just Googling for data. Progressives don&#8217;t seem to know the difference. That&#8217;s why the right regularly eats their lunch. The right invests in, trains and nurtures their activists while the left expects theirs to live on slaves&#8217; wages. </p>
<p>Progressives need to fund their own if they expect to compete. </p>
<p>I have tried, in my own <a href="http://bluecentury.org/" rel="nofollow">modest way.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Roberts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 02:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no Shad, it sounds like a good idea ... one which will generate more revenue for merchants, the city, and everyone.

just plain old good marketing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>n Shd, t snds lk  gd d &#8230; n whch wll gnrt mr rvn fr mrchnts, th cty, nd vryn.</p>
<p>jst pln ld gd mrktng.</p>
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		<title>By: shadmarsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>shadmarsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 02:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>free parking downtown? That sounds like Socialism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>free parking downtown? That sounds like Socialism.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Roberts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gordon, did you expect this topic not to deteriorate rapidly, even to the extent of attracting Buggs out of the wall&gt;

But you asked for a serious answer and I will give you one:

Progressives tend to over-nuance things into a morass of shades of gray, making real problems so complex they never get solved, endless debating the whichness of why.

What&#039;s the result? Example, the Democrats had a 60-seat supermajority in the Senate and still could not pass health care reform after months of trying.

Another example: President Obama has blown a what was at least a reasonable mandate for change into running Jimmy Carter a close race for becoming the most ineffectual one-term president in the last 100 years.

While the GOP is by no means perfect, they tend to get their message across more coherently than the Democrats (as stated above). My first reply was flip but not less true - maybe your message is weaker.

No, do not reject this logic out of hand. If you keep (to use the cliche everyone loves so much as applied the current administration and Congress) keep &quot;snatching victory from the jaws of defeat&quot; then the following possibilities exist:

1. You are lousy communicators.

2. You are wrong.

3. All of the above.

I do wish you luck on the city council, Gordon, but you guys are making the same mistake as on the national and state levels - i.e. overly complicating simple problems into an unsolvable unsolvable morass of a zillion special interest groups pulling you hither and yon.

Did I mention lots of free parking downtown as a simple solution yet? ;-)

Still... I really do wish you good luck, Gordon. You&#039;ll need it.

By the way, where do YOU park for the city council meetings?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="background-color:#FFF0F5 !important"><p>Grdn, dd y xpct ths tpc nt t dtrrt rpdly, vn t th xtnt f ttrctng Bggs t f th wll&gt;</p>
<p>Bt y skd fr  srs nswr nd  wll gv y n:</p>
<p>Prgrssvs tnd t vr-nnc thngs nt  mrss f shds f gry, mkng rl prblms s cmplx thy nvr gt slvd, ndlss dbtng th whchnss f why.</p>
<p>Wht&#8217;s th rslt? xmpl, th Dmcrts hd  60-st sprmjrty n th Snt nd stll cld nt pss hlth cr rfrm ftr mnths f tryng.</p>
<p>nthr xmpl: Prsdnt bm hs blwn  wht ws t lst  rsnbl mndt fr chng nt rnnng Jmmy Crtr  cls rc fr bcmng th mst nffctl n-trm prsdnt n th lst 100 yrs.</p>
<p>Whl th GP s by n mns prfct, thy tnd t gt thr mssg crss mr chrntly thn th Dmcrts (s sttd bv). My frst rply ws flp bt nt lss tr &#8211; myb yr mssg s wkr.</p>
<p>N, d nt rjct ths lgc t f hnd. f y kp (t s th clch vryn lvs s mch s ppld th crrnt dmnstrtn nd Cngrss) kp &#8220;sntchng vctry frm th jws f dft&#8221; thn th fllwng pssblts xst:</p>
<p>1. Y r lsy cmmnctrs.</p>
<p>2. Y r wrng.</p>
<p>3. ll f th bv.</p>
<p> d wsh y lck n th cty cncl, Grdn, bt y gys r mkng th sm mstk s n th ntnl nd stt lvls &#8211; .. vrly cmplctng smpl prblms nt n nslvbl nslvbl mrss f  zlln spcl ntrst grps pllng y hthr nd yn.</p>
<p>Dd  mntn lts f fr prkng dwntwn s  smpl sltn yt? <img src='http://scrutinyhooligans.us/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Stll&#8230;  rlly d wsh y gd lck, Grdn. Y&#8217;ll nd t.</p>
<p>By th wy, whr d Y prk fr th cty cncl mtngs?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Sullivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 00:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Neocon chickenhawks get people killed trying desperately to prove that they&#039;re *not* pussies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Neocon chickenhawks get people killed trying desperately to prove that they&#8217;re *not* pussies.</p>
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		<title>By: shadmarsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>shadmarsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 23:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgive my sexist bluntness, but progressives never get anywhere because they are pussies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgive my sexist bluntness, but progressives never get anywhere because they are pussies.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Bugg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Bugg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pay no mind to Ralph. After all, he&#039;s the person who first told me about Phillip Berg&#039;s lawsuit against Obama (aka he&#039;s a birther)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pay no mind to Ralph. After all, he&#8217;s the person who first told me about Phillip Berg&#8217;s lawsuit against Obama (aka he&#8217;s a birther)</p>
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