Comments on: A Poisioned Primer on the Conference http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/12/21/a-poisioned-primer-on-the-conference/ If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen. — Samuel Adams Wed, 23 May 2012 23:05:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Tom Buckner http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/12/21/a-poisioned-primer-on-the-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-37454 Tom Buckner Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:44:36 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=10299#comment-37454 There was a parody of the Panama one that someone wrote: A dog, a pant, a panic in a patna pagoda. There was a parody of the Panama one that someone wrote:
A dog, a pant, a panic in a patna pagoda.

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]]> By: Michael Muller http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/12/21/a-poisioned-primer-on-the-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-37453 Michael Muller Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:10:07 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=10299#comment-37453 Speaking of palindromes, I fell in love with my fourth grade teacher when she wrote <i>A man a plan a canal, Panama</i> up on the blackboard. I still think that's cool all these years later. Tom, did you say something about macaroons? Speaking of palindromes, I fell in love with my fourth grade teacher when she wrote A man a plan a canal, Panama up on the blackboard. I still think that’s cool all these years later.

Tom, did you say something about macaroons?

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]]> By: Gordon Smith http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/12/21/a-poisioned-primer-on-the-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-37450 Gordon Smith Tue, 22 Dec 2009 03:37:31 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=10299#comment-37450 Tom, That 'oisio' looks so harmonious that it brought to mind some favorite palindromes - Do geese see God? I'm a lasagna hog. Go hang a salami. Tom,

That ‘oisio’ looks so harmonious that it brought to mind some favorite palindromes –

Do geese see God?

I’m a lasagna hog. Go hang a salami.

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]]> By: Tom Buckner http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/12/21/a-poisioned-primer-on-the-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-37443 Tom Buckner Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:21:47 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=10299#comment-37443 Just read the woodshed article. It's dead on. I left a message for Obama here: http://www.whitehouse.gov/CONTACT/ which I have on my browser's "speed dial." I said, in essence, that I didn't vote to re-elect Ford, and "I won't vote to re-elect you if you keep governing to the right of Ford." Just read the woodshed article. It’s dead on.

I left a message for Obama here: http://www.whitehouse.gov/CONTACT/ which I have on my browser’s “speed dial.”

I said, in essence, that I didn’t vote to re-elect Ford, and “I won’t vote to re-elect you if you keep governing to the right of Ford.”

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]]> By: barry http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/12/21/a-poisioned-primer-on-the-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-37441 barry Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:01:54 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=10299#comment-37441 Tom Harkin will be one of the conferees, but suggests he will not try to re-insert a public option. Instead, he will try to bring it up later next year in a separate bill. Good luck with that... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/21/key-dem-the-public-option_n_399608.html Tom Harkin will be one of the conferees, but suggests he will not try to re-insert a public option. Instead, he will try to bring it up later next year in a separate bill. Good luck with that…

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/21/key-dem-the-public-option_n_399608.html

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]]> By: barry http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/12/21/a-poisioned-primer-on-the-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-37439 barry Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:05:11 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=10299#comment-37439 Yeah, we've just been smiling at you, as you are unaware of the spinach in your teeth... Yeah, we’ve just been smiling at you, as you are unaware of the spinach in your teeth…

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]]> By: Tom Sullivan http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/12/21/a-poisioned-primer-on-the-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-37438 Tom Sullivan Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:10:34 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=10299#comment-37438 I just caught my spelling error in the title. What a maroon! I just caught my spelling error in the title. What a maroon!

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]]> By: Tom Sullivan http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/12/21/a-poisioned-primer-on-the-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-37436 Tom Sullivan Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:11:04 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=10299#comment-37436 I think those are good guesses about some of the players, but I have no idea how many total players there will be. I think those are good guesses about some of the players, but I have no idea how many total players there will be.

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]]> By: Doug Gibson http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/12/21/a-poisioned-primer-on-the-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-37434 Doug Gibson Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:58:36 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=10299#comment-37434 Michael, I believe that you're pretty much right - except that it would probably be the chairmen of all the committees that had a hand in drafting the bill. So that means Obey, Waxman, and um, someone else on the House side, and Baucus and um, Dodd (or would it be Harkin?) on the Senate side, though Reid and Pelosi can really appoint whoever they'd like. Ideally, you'd have a representative in there from anyone else you'd like to get buy-in from, but that's not how Obama does things, apparently. Michael,

I believe that you’re pretty much right – except that it would probably be the chairmen of all the committees that had a hand in drafting the bill.

So that means Obey, Waxman, and um, someone else on the House side, and Baucus and um, Dodd (or would it be Harkin?) on the Senate side, though Reid and Pelosi can really appoint whoever they’d like. Ideally, you’d have a representative in there from anyone else you’d like to get buy-in from, but that’s not how Obama does things, apparently.

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]]> By: barry http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/12/21/a-poisioned-primer-on-the-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-37433 barry Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:31:31 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=10299#comment-37433 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/drew-westen/leadership-obama-style-an_b_398813.html Ouch. He's right. I hope Obama reads this & fires Rahm Emanuel & comes back Jan. 1st & says: "Hey guys. Mind if I sit in on the Conference Committee? I have some thoughts..." MM: "Nice avatar, by the way" Oh, this old thing? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/drew-westen/leadership-obama-style-an_b_398813.html

Ouch. He’s right. I hope Obama reads this & fires Rahm Emanuel & comes back Jan. 1st & says: “Hey guys. Mind if I sit in on the Conference Committee? I have some thoughts…”

MM: “Nice avatar, by the way”

Oh, this old thing?

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]]> By: Michael Muller http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/12/21/a-poisioned-primer-on-the-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-37431 Michael Muller Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:09:59 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=10299#comment-37431 Barry, from my days on the hill, I think I remember that The Conference Committee is typically made up of senior members of both the House & Senate Appropriations Committees. Tom? Doug? Nice avatar, by the way ;) Barry, from my days on the hill, I think I remember that The Conference Committee is typically made up of senior members of both the House & Senate Appropriations Committees. Tom? Doug?

Nice avatar, by the way ;)

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]]> By: Tom Sullivan http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/12/21/a-poisioned-primer-on-the-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-37430 Tom Sullivan Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:52:23 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=10299#comment-37430 Whoa! Obama just got taken to the woodshed: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/drew-westen/leadership-obama-style-an_b_398813.html Whoa! Obama just got taken to the woodshed:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/drew-westen/leadership-obama-style-an_b_398813.html

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]]> By: barry http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/12/21/a-poisioned-primer-on-the-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-37427 barry Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:35:48 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=10299#comment-37427 How is that the supposedly linked provisions of "mandated universal coverage" and SOME form of public option got spun loose, and all that remains is the federal requirement that we ALL must pay whatever the private insurers want to charge us, with no public option, no Medicare buy-in, nothing? I haven't been able to find out who will be on the Conference Committee, or even how/when this is decided. Russ Feingold is urging the conferees, whoever they might be, to add a public option & dare the traitors, sorry, insurance company stooges, sorry, Senators Leiberman & Nelson & the Blue Dog CongressCritters to try to torpedo it. That would be better than letting the Senate bill come crashing down on us... How is that the supposedly linked provisions of “mandated universal coverage” and SOME form of public option got spun loose, and all that remains is the federal requirement that we ALL must pay whatever the private insurers want to charge us, with no public option, no Medicare buy-in, nothing?

I haven’t been able to find out who will be on the Conference Committee, or even how/when this is decided.

Russ Feingold is urging the conferees, whoever they might be, to add a public option & dare the traitors, sorry, insurance company stooges, sorry, Senators Leiberman & Nelson & the Blue Dog CongressCritters to try to torpedo it. That would be better than letting the Senate bill come crashing down on us…

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