Comments on: Friday Open Thread: Starting With Shuler http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/11/20/friday-open-thread-starting-with-shuler/ If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen. — Samuel Adams Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:53:14 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Bobby Coggins http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/11/20/friday-open-thread-starting-with-shuler/comment-page-1/#comment-36490 Bobby Coggins Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:44:40 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=9643#comment-36490 Doug: You can't have a primary for the same reason we couldn't have one after Charles Taylor got it...the good old boys club wouldn't allow it, and would make sure you were exiled to the outer wilderness for even thinking such a thing. I think Patsy Keever could beat Heath Shuler and go on to win the general election in 2010. Primarily because the Republicans are not very organized and no one has been able to build up a machine due to all the infighting. She is the only one I know of who could raise the money necessary to fell Shuler. Thank God she's running for a seat in the NC House. Doug:

You can’t have a primary for the same reason we couldn’t have one after Charles Taylor got it…the good old boys club wouldn’t allow it, and would make sure you were exiled to the outer wilderness for even thinking such a thing.

I think Patsy Keever could beat Heath Shuler and go on to win the general election in 2010. Primarily because the Republicans are not very organized and no one has been able to build up a machine due to all the infighting. She is the only one I know of who could raise the money necessary to fell Shuler.

Thank God she’s running for a seat in the NC House.

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]]> By: Michael Muller http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/11/20/friday-open-thread-starting-with-shuler/comment-page-1/#comment-36481 Michael Muller Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:25:35 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=9643#comment-36481 Gordon and Doug, I moved my comments <a href="http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/11/24/a-doctor-in-the-house/" rel="nofollow">above the fold</a> so they'd be easier to find. Cheers, MM Gordon and Doug,

I moved my comments above the fold so they’d be easier to find.

Cheers,

MM

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]]> By: Doug Gibson http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/11/20/friday-open-thread-starting-with-shuler/comment-page-1/#comment-36477 Doug Gibson Tue, 24 Nov 2009 04:06:12 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=9643#comment-36477 Really? Eichenbaum would beat Greg Newman? Wow. Really? Eichenbaum would beat Greg Newman? Wow.

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]]> By: Gordon Smith http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/11/20/friday-open-thread-starting-with-shuler/comment-page-1/#comment-36475 Gordon Smith Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:07:45 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=9643#comment-36475 Michael, I hope you'll write about it. Sounds fascinating. Michael,

I hope you’ll write about it. Sounds fascinating.

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]]> By: Michael Muller http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/11/20/friday-open-thread-starting-with-shuler/comment-page-1/#comment-36472 Michael Muller Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:39:19 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=9643#comment-36472 Eichenbaum will win the 11th District GOP primary next spring (of the 6 candidates announced or considering). MM Eichenbaum will win the 11th District GOP primary next spring (of the 6 candidates announced or considering).

MM

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]]> By: shay donahue http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/11/20/friday-open-thread-starting-with-shuler/comment-page-1/#comment-36468 shay donahue Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:14:58 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=9643#comment-36468 I cannot believe that the Democrat party of Transylvania/Buncombe cts.is not vigorously seeking a REAL Democrat to challenge Shuler. Shuler betrayed our President and all us Democrats who voted for him....There is absolutely NO excuse to oppose ANY of President Obama's primary bills...PARTICULARLY HEALTH CARE (his DEFINITIVE moment)..."C" Street is dangerous to our government...it's supreme goal is to turn our country into a Theocratic Christian nation..Shuler is an avid supporter and actually led the prayer for "The Family's" National Prayer Breakfast....Shuler is a liar and should come out of the closet and join his true party, the Republican party. There are thousands of us who can no longer trust him and will never vote for him again. Shay Donahue I cannot believe that the Democrat party of Transylvania/Buncombe cts.is not vigorously seeking a REAL Democrat to challenge Shuler. Shuler betrayed our President and all us Democrats who voted for him….There is absolutely NO excuse to oppose ANY of President Obama’s primary bills…PARTICULARLY HEALTH CARE (his DEFINITIVE moment)…”C” Street is dangerous to our government…it’s supreme goal is to turn our country into a Theocratic Christian nation..Shuler is an avid supporter and actually led the prayer for “The Family’s” National Prayer Breakfast….Shuler is a liar and should come out of the closet and join his true party, the Republican party. There are thousands of us who can no longer trust him and will never vote for him again. Shay Donahue

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]]> By: Doug Gibson http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/11/20/friday-open-thread-starting-with-shuler/comment-page-1/#comment-36464 Doug Gibson Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:34:44 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=9643#comment-36464 Why is it that they can have a primary, but we can't? Why is it that they can have a primary, but we can’t?

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]]> By: Gordon Smith http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/11/20/friday-open-thread-starting-with-shuler/comment-page-1/#comment-36462 Gordon Smith Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:57:16 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=9643#comment-36462 Tea Party folk have a Congressional candidate in NC-11, Dr. Dan Eichenbaum - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_xQw8W6dQU Tea Party folk have a Congressional candidate in NC-11, Dr. Dan Eichenbaum –

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_xQw8W6dQU

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]]> By: Blind Faithiness http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/11/20/friday-open-thread-starting-with-shuler/comment-page-1/#comment-36455 Blind Faithiness Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:48:26 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=9643#comment-36455 Hey Hooligans, I was wondering if anyone had thoughts regarding two recent court rulings and sentencing. The two in question are ex-fireman Diez(the guy that shot the bicyclist) who received 4 months in prison and a guy that was busted selling LSD at a show who received 14 years. I feel that both broke the law, clearly, but are these punishments fair? Is one any more or less dangerous to society? Is there any talk by city council to push back against these types of absurd interpretations of the law and the continued burden placed upon taxpayers for non-violent drug charges? Hey Hooligans,
I was wondering if anyone had thoughts regarding two recent court rulings and sentencing. The two in question are ex-fireman Diez(the guy that shot the bicyclist) who received 4 months in prison and a guy that was busted selling LSD at a show who received 14 years.

I feel that both broke the law, clearly, but are these punishments fair?

Is one any more or less dangerous to society? Is there any talk by city council to push back against these types of absurd interpretations of the law and the continued burden placed upon taxpayers for non-violent drug charges?

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]]> By: linda watson http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/11/20/friday-open-thread-starting-with-shuler/comment-page-1/#comment-36451 linda watson Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:16:47 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=9643#comment-36451 Gordon, It isn't just that Shuler voted against the health care bill, he was one of 15 Democrats who voted against allowing it to proceed to the floor for debate -- plus he voted for the Stupak amendment which will prove devastating to women in the future. I think we often get ourselves in trouble by accepting the lesser of evils rather than looking for the very best. Gordon,

It isn’t just that Shuler voted against the health care bill, he was one of 15 Democrats who voted against allowing it to proceed to the floor for debate — plus he voted for the Stupak amendment which will prove devastating to women in the future.

I think we often get ourselves in trouble by accepting the lesser of evils rather than looking for the very best.

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]]> By: Doug Gibson http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/11/20/friday-open-thread-starting-with-shuler/comment-page-1/#comment-36449 Doug Gibson Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:21:10 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=9643#comment-36449 I'm not Shuler's biggest fan, but criminy - this sort of thing happens in Asheville development circles all the time. Shuler's got nothing on Coleman, and the TVA has nothing on our county commissioners. My bet: on Monday Shuler does interviews and releases a statement that he misspoke, he apologizes for the appearance of impropriety, and he divests himself of the development. End of story. What I find most amusing is that they're theorizing at blueridgenow that this is Rahm Emmanuel's revenge for Shuler voting against the health care bill. Ha. Based on the propaganda I consume, Emmanuel recruited folks like Shuler specifically to stop things like the public option. Not that I believe that, exactly - I'm just fascinated by the way the two ends of the spectrum mirror each other. I’m not Shuler’s biggest fan, but criminy – this sort of thing happens in Asheville development circles all the time. Shuler’s got nothing on Coleman, and the TVA has nothing on our county commissioners.

My bet: on Monday Shuler does interviews and releases a statement that he misspoke, he apologizes for the appearance of impropriety, and he divests himself of the development. End of story.

What I find most amusing is that they’re theorizing at blueridgenow that this is Rahm Emmanuel’s revenge for Shuler voting against the health care bill. Ha. Based on the propaganda I consume, Emmanuel recruited folks like Shuler specifically to stop things like the public option. Not that I believe that, exactly – I’m just fascinated by the way the two ends of the spectrum mirror each other.

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]]> By: Mark Nicolson http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/11/20/friday-open-thread-starting-with-shuler/comment-page-1/#comment-36438 Mark Nicolson Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:45:32 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=9643#comment-36438 http://www.citizen-times.com/article/20091114/NEWS01/911130361 http://www.blueridgenow.com/article/20091113/SERVICES03/911131048 he could be toast. people don't like liars, especially when they fired the last guy for his own ethical baggage. these are the most vicious editorials i've seen in a long time, the press doesn't forgive being had like that very easily. http://www.citizen-times.com/article/20091114/NEWS01/911130361

http://www.blueridgenow.com/article/20091113/SERVICES03/911131048

he could be toast. people don’t like liars, especially when they fired the last guy for his own ethical baggage.

these are the most vicious editorials i’ve seen in a long time, the press doesn’t forgive being had like that very easily.

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]]> By: writ of summons http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/11/20/friday-open-thread-starting-with-shuler/comment-page-1/#comment-36437 writ of summons Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:55:52 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=9643#comment-36437 Has anyone had experience with e-books? I'm not interested in getting a Kindle from Amazon nor a Sony Book Reader. But I am interested in getting digital copies of some of the tomes I've been reading. I'd just like to be able to open them on my computer and copy and paste excerpts, without any of their proprietary software either. These big players are so busy hawking their device wares, they neglect to mention whether I can or can't just open the darn thing on my computer. Has anyone had experience with e-books? I’m not interested in getting a Kindle from Amazon nor a Sony Book Reader. But I am interested in getting digital copies of some of the tomes I’ve been reading. I’d just like to be able to open them on my computer and copy and paste excerpts, without any of their proprietary software either. These big players are so busy hawking their device wares, they neglect to mention whether I can or can’t just open the darn thing on my computer.

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]]> By: EBNC http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/11/20/friday-open-thread-starting-with-shuler/comment-page-1/#comment-36435 EBNC Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:08:07 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=9643#comment-36435 I wish there was a word to describe <strike>Congressman</strike> C Street Resident Heath Shuler in light of his lack of candor regarding the TVA land swap. <a href="http://pix.beefsupreme.com/files/os9r2e1llt5e11p2w007.jpg" rel="nofollow">A simple, easy to spell, easy to pronounce word...</a> I wish there was a word to describe Congressman C Street Resident Heath Shuler in light of his lack of candor regarding the TVA land swap.

A simple, easy to spell, easy to pronounce word…

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]]> By: Paul C http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/11/20/friday-open-thread-starting-with-shuler/comment-page-1/#comment-36432 Paul C Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:33:20 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=9643#comment-36432 Seniors rally for health insurance reform: Tomorrow Sat Nov 21 @ 2:30pm @ Pack Place, Downtown Asheville. Rain or shine. Seniors rally for health insurance reform: Tomorrow Sat Nov 21 @ 2:30pm @ Pack Place, Downtown Asheville. Rain or shine.

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