Comments on: Tele-Town Hall Open Thread http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/08/13/tele-town-hall-open-thread/ If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen. — Samuel Adams Wed, 23 May 2012 15:01:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Kai Schwandes http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/08/13/tele-town-hall-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-34391 Kai Schwandes Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:34:01 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=8849#comment-34391 Funny, I didn’t realize that Asheville has three different guys named ‘Tim Peck’ #’s 2, 41, & 83 Me, myself and I makes 3 I guess :-) Funny, I didn’t realize that Asheville has three different guys named ‘Tim Peck’
#’s 2, 41, & 83

Me, myself and I makes 3 I guess :-)

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]]> By: barry http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/08/13/tele-town-hall-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-34378 barry Tue, 18 Aug 2009 02:09:54 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=8849#comment-34378 The Mad Hatters are... sorry Tim. The 'Tea Partiers' are inviting Heath Shuler to attend a Town Hall on healthcare, on August 22nd. They claim 168 people signed the petition. Funny, I didn't realize that Asheville has three different guys named 'Tim Peck': #'s 2, 41, & 83 http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/shuler1/signatures-1.html Vote early & often, eh Tim? The Mad Hatters are… sorry Tim. The ‘Tea Partiers’ are inviting Heath Shuler to attend a Town Hall on healthcare, on August 22nd. They claim 168 people signed the petition.

Funny, I didn’t realize that Asheville has three different guys named ‘Tim Peck’:

#’s 2, 41, & 83

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/shuler1/signatures-1.html

Vote early & often, eh Tim?

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]]> By: barry http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/08/13/tele-town-hall-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-34370 barry Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:24:35 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=8849#comment-34370 Where are we going here? Another Obama healthcare rally - this time over a dozen armed protesters were milling around outside, including a couple with assault rifles. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/17/man-carrying-semi-automat_n_261279.html Among other reactions to this trend, I'm reminded of the quote by Isaac Asimov: "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." Where are we going here? Another Obama healthcare rally – this time over a dozen armed protesters were milling around outside, including a couple with assault rifles.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/17/man-carrying-semi-automat_n_261279.html

Among other reactions to this trend, I’m reminded of the quote by Isaac Asimov: “Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.”

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]]> By: Kai Schwandes http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/08/13/tele-town-hall-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-34308 Kai Schwandes Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:10:38 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=8849#comment-34308 all i can say is: baby-steps y'all, baby-steps LMAO!! all i can say is: baby-steps y’all, baby-steps LMAO!!

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]]> By: barry http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/08/13/tele-town-hall-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-34303 barry Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:23:34 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=8849#comment-34303 This is why I didn't bother calling in last night. We have a Republican congressman with fistfulls of insurance co. dollars. Are there any Democrats out there willing to save us from this poser? This is why I didn’t bother calling in last night. We have a Republican congressman with fistfulls of insurance co. dollars. Are there any Democrats out there willing to save us from this poser?

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]]> By: Gordon Smith http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/08/13/tele-town-hall-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-34302 Gordon Smith Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:04:20 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=8849#comment-34302 Two AC-T articles on the situation: <a href="http://citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090814/NEWS01/908140330" rel="nofollow">Shuler explains opposition to H3200</a> <a href="http://citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090814/NEWS01/908140331" rel="nofollow">Shuler gets $130k from health care sources</a> Two AC-T articles on the situation:

Shuler explains opposition to H3200

Shuler gets $130k from health care sources

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]]> By: Anne http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/08/13/tele-town-hall-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-34301 Anne Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:06:42 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=8849#comment-34301 I listened -- I didn't get a chance to ask a question. It was Shuler's typical word salad of talking points. He focused his answers to various questions on: 1) private insurance --with a few tweaks -- is fantastic because change is uncertain and Medicare has fraud, 2) the Blue Dogs are our saviours, rah, 3) Medicare has waste and fraud (unlike the Dept of Defense's $2 TRILLION dollars unaccounted for, Heath?), 4)We need incentives for Americans to stop eating Twinkies and to get up off the couch, 5) If Americans would just take better care of themselves and stop having accidents and getting cancer health care would be a lot less costly (on the CEO's bottom line), 6) the Blue Dogs are great, rah, 7)Electronic records will save the day, 8) Private insurance really is great and loves you-- you just have to look closer, and believe their promises that they won't shove you off the plank when you get cancer, 9) Yes, I and the Blue Dogs took $$ from the health care industry, but that doesn't influence us, and, the Blue Dogs are saving America, rah. That was about it. Anyone else want to add? I listened — I didn’t get a chance to ask a question.

It was Shuler’s typical word salad of talking points.

He focused his answers to various questions on:
1) private insurance –with a few tweaks — is fantastic because change is uncertain and Medicare has fraud,
2) the Blue Dogs are our saviours, rah,
3) Medicare has waste and fraud (unlike the Dept of Defense’s $2 TRILLION dollars unaccounted for, Heath?),
4)We need incentives for Americans to stop eating Twinkies and to get up off the couch,
5) If Americans would just take better care of themselves and stop having accidents and getting cancer health care would be a lot less costly (on the CEO’s bottom line),
6) the Blue Dogs are great, rah,
7)Electronic records will save the day,
8) Private insurance really is great and loves you– you just have to look closer, and believe their promises that they won’t shove you off the plank when you get cancer,
9) Yes, I and the Blue Dogs took $$ from the health care industry, but that doesn’t influence us, and, the Blue Dogs are saving America, rah.

That was about it. Anyone else want to add?

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]]> By: barry http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/08/13/tele-town-hall-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-34281 barry Fri, 14 Aug 2009 04:25:10 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=8849#comment-34281 Thank you folks, he's here all week. try the veal... Thank you folks, he’s here all week. try the veal…

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]]> By: Gordon Smith http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/08/13/tele-town-hall-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-34280 Gordon Smith Fri, 14 Aug 2009 04:08:46 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=8849#comment-34280 In this case used for storing clothes. But a couple of the suits are pretty deadly. In this case used for storing clothes. But a couple of the suits are pretty deadly.

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]]> By: barry http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/08/13/tele-town-hall-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-34279 barry Fri, 14 Aug 2009 03:43:12 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=8849#comment-34279 Noun 1. armoire - a large wardrobe or cabinet; originally used for storing weapons um, Gordon? Noun 1. armoire – a large wardrobe or cabinet; originally used for storing weapons

um, Gordon?

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]]> By: barry http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/08/13/tele-town-hall-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-34278 barry Fri, 14 Aug 2009 03:40:46 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=8849#comment-34278 I'm disappointed with this, too. Typical Clintonesque triangulation. Maybe they think pitting pharma against the insurance companies is clever strategy. I don't want to give up on them yet, but if this is merely a 'half a loaf' compromise, and not a strategic manuever to get where we need to be, god help them. I’m disappointed with this, too. Typical Clintonesque triangulation. Maybe they think pitting pharma against the insurance companies is clever strategy. I don’t want to give up on them yet, but if this is merely a ‘half a loaf’ compromise, and not a strategic manuever to get where we need to be, god help them.

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]]> By: Diogenes http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2009/08/13/tele-town-hall-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-34277 Diogenes Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:51:55 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=8849#comment-34277 What does it matter with shit like this going on? Obama has failed us. "Ryam Grim of the Huffington Post got his hands on a July 7 memo documenting the deal between PhRMA and the White House, which both are now denying but which was initially confirmed by Jim Messina, Deputy White House Chief of Staff to the New York Times. The memo was ostensibly written following the July 7 meeting at the White House between pharmaceutical industry representatives and members of the administration (who the White House refused to name). It says the White House agreed to oppose any congressional efforts to use the government's leverage to bargain for lower drug prices or import drugs from Canada -- and also agreed not to pursue Medicare rebates or shift some drugs from Medicare Part B to Medicare Part D, which would cost Big Pharma billions in reduced reimbursements." source: http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/08/13/memo-confirms-deal-between-phrma-and-white-house/ What does it matter with shit like this going on? Obama has failed us.

“Ryam Grim of the Huffington Post got his hands on a July 7 memo documenting the deal between PhRMA and the White House, which both are now denying but which was initially confirmed by Jim Messina, Deputy White House Chief of Staff to the New York Times. The memo was ostensibly written following the July 7 meeting at the White House between pharmaceutical industry representatives and members of the administration (who the White House refused to name).

It says the White House agreed to oppose any congressional efforts to use the government’s leverage to bargain for lower drug prices or import drugs from Canada — and also agreed not to pursue Medicare rebates or shift some drugs from Medicare Part B to Medicare Part D, which would cost Big Pharma billions in reduced reimbursements.”

source: http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/08/13/memo-confirms-deal-between-phrma-and-white-house/

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