Comments on: LOLberman! http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2008/11/18/lolberman/ If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen. — Samuel Adams Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:18:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Kai Schwandes http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2008/11/18/lolberman/comment-page-1/#comment-26421 Kai Schwandes Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:57:33 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=6390#comment-26421 <blockquote>He. Left. The. Party.</blockquote> well he did and he did not: at the end of the day he is still caucusing with the Dem. party and he is needed, you may not like it Gordon but that is the reality, yes?! (maybe Joe is setting himself up to run as a "Maverick" in 2012?)

He. Left. The. Party.

well he did and he did not: at the end of the day he is still caucusing with the Dem. party and he is needed, you may not like it Gordon but that is the reality, yes?! (maybe Joe is setting himself up to run as a “Maverick” in 2012?)

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]]> By: Gordon Smith http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2008/11/18/lolberman/comment-page-1/#comment-26406 Gordon Smith Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:04:23 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=6390#comment-26406 The voters of Connecticut did want him. But the voters in the Democratic primary didn't. That's when he left the party. Repeat - He. Left. The. Party. The voters of Connecticut did want him. But the voters in the Democratic primary didn’t. That’s when he left the party. Repeat – He. Left. The. Party.

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]]> By: bobaloo http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2008/11/18/lolberman/comment-page-1/#comment-26401 bobaloo Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:35:13 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=6390#comment-26401 Doug and Gordon, You may be partially right, but obviously the voters of Connecticut as a whole wanted him. I really don't see how this is arguable. Gordon, your point about playing hardball is well taken. And that's what Lieberman obviously does. Doug and Gordon,
You may be partially right, but obviously the voters of Connecticut as a whole wanted him. I really don’t see how this is arguable.
Gordon, your point about playing hardball is well taken. And that’s what Lieberman obviously does.

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]]> By: Andrew Harvel http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2008/11/18/lolberman/comment-page-1/#comment-26398 Andrew Harvel Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:46:54 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=6390#comment-26398 With Alaska the DNC is now at 58. When they reach 61, then they can send 'Joe the Liebermann' packing. With Alaska the DNC is now at 58. When they reach 61, then they can send ‘Joe the Liebermann’ packing.

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]]> By: Doug Gibson http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2008/11/18/lolberman/comment-page-1/#comment-26393 Doug Gibson Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:10:59 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=6390#comment-26393 How is slandering the presidential nominee of the party you then expect to caucus with "sticking to your beliefs"? And the point is not that <i>I</i> disagree with him, or dislike him, it's that the voters of the party to whom he owed his seat in the Senate decided they didn't like what he was doing. They didn't agree with his beliefs, and Joe decided that the best response was to betray the years of trust they had placed in him and run as a candidate from a different party. Boy, you can't do much better than that as a display of integrity and character. How is slandering the presidential nominee of the party you then expect to caucus with “sticking to your beliefs”?

And the point is not that I disagree with him, or dislike him, it’s that the voters of the party to whom he owed his seat in the Senate decided they didn’t like what he was doing. They didn’t agree with his beliefs, and Joe decided that the best response was to betray the years of trust they had placed in him and run as a candidate from a different party. Boy, you can’t do much better than that as a display of integrity and character.

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]]> By: Gordon Smith http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2008/11/18/lolberman/comment-page-1/#comment-26392 Gordon Smith Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:34:04 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=6390#comment-26392 Bob, The Republican voters wanted him. The Democratic voters voted him out in the primary. And I think that his anti-Obama stance will cost him his will. I'm wagering that if Joe votes against any Obama initiatives, he'll lose that Chairmanship. It's hardball, not playground. While I think that he certainly chose the wrong bus, it's pragmatic to keep him on if we have guarantees that he'll be with the Dems on health care, pulling out of Iraq, closing Gitmo, transforming our energy economy, etc. Bob,

The Republican voters wanted him. The Democratic voters voted him out in the primary.

And I think that his anti-Obama stance will cost him his will. I’m wagering that if Joe votes against any Obama initiatives, he’ll lose that Chairmanship. It’s hardball, not playground. While I think that he certainly chose the wrong bus, it’s pragmatic to keep him on if we have guarantees that he’ll be with the Dems on health care, pulling out of Iraq, closing Gitmo, transforming our energy economy, etc.

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]]> By: randallt http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2008/11/18/lolberman/comment-page-1/#comment-26387 randallt Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:49:54 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=6390#comment-26387 Slippery salamander... I think of him more as a slippery slug that has crawled out of Satan's ass to help spread death and evil through the world. Truly one of the lowest forms of life in the government. Slippery salamander…

I think of him more as a slippery slug that has crawled out of Satan’s ass to help spread death and evil through the world. Truly one of the lowest forms of life in the government.

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]]> By: bobaloo http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2008/11/18/lolberman/comment-page-1/#comment-26384 bobaloo Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:25:28 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=6390#comment-26384 And by the way, who do you have to thank for Lieb's retaining the chair of the HS Committee? No less than our Prez-elect. http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/18/lieberman.senate/?iref=mpstoryview And by the way, who do you have to thank for Lieb’s retaining the chair of the HS Committee? No less than our Prez-elect.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/18/lieberman.senate/?iref=mpstoryview

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]]> By: bobaloo http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2008/11/18/lolberman/comment-page-1/#comment-26382 bobaloo Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:21:41 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=6390#comment-26382 <blockquote>he could have shown a lot more interest in unity and comity with the rest of his party instead of backing Bush to the hilt on matters of defense, national security, and foreign policy. In for a penny, in for a pound.</blockquote> So being a Hawk and sticking to your beliefs basically means you're no longer worthy of being a Democrat. Good to know. <blockquote>You can say that “his party” disowned him, or you could say that the voters said they didn’t want him.</blockquote> Considering he's still a Senator I think it's fair to say the voters did want him.

he could have shown a lot more interest in unity and comity with the rest of his party instead of backing Bush to the hilt on matters of defense, national security, and foreign policy. In for a penny, in for a pound.

So being a Hawk and sticking to your beliefs basically means you’re no longer worthy of being a Democrat. Good to know.

You can say that “his party” disowned him, or you could say that the voters said they didn’t want him.

Considering he’s still a Senator I think it’s fair to say the voters did want him.

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]]> By: Kai Schwandes http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2008/11/18/lolberman/comment-page-1/#comment-26380 Kai Schwandes Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:23:45 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=6390#comment-26380 politics is the art of compromise - The Dems. need LOLieberjoke for a 60 Senate majority which is in reach, what with Stevens going down and AL the man Franken so close to victory - if the progressive momentum can continue maybe in 2 years LOLieberjoke will no longer be needed and then I would say "hasta la vista, baby". Got to hand it to Joe, he knows how to play the game. politics is the art of compromise – The Dems. need LOLieberjoke for a 60 Senate majority which is in reach, what with Stevens going down and AL the man Franken so close to victory – if the progressive momentum can continue maybe in 2 years LOLieberjoke will no longer be needed and then I would say “hasta la vista, baby”. Got to hand it to Joe, he knows how to play the game.

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]]> By: Tim Peck http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2008/11/18/lolberman/comment-page-1/#comment-26375 Tim Peck Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:55:18 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=6390#comment-26375 Gordon Smith says: <blockquote>Here’s hoping that Obama’s got him on a short leash. One misstep and sayonara?</blockquote> One misstep?! Leiberman wanted McCain to be Prez. Just how many missteps adds up to one? This is yet another ample demonstration of Democrat spine. Gordon Smith says:
Here’s hoping that Obama’s got him on a short leash. One misstep and sayonara?

One misstep?! Leiberman wanted McCain to be Prez. Just how many missteps adds up to one?

This is yet another ample demonstration of Democrat spine.

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]]> By: Andrew Harvel http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2008/11/18/lolberman/comment-page-1/#comment-26368 Andrew Harvel Wed, 19 Nov 2008 02:37:34 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=6390#comment-26368 Good news goes around. Totally unrelated, but the infamous Ted Stevens (AK) has just <a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ijDA5bgxiHlTvS_r-SSjskS1Tq1wD94HMTV00" rel="nofollow">gone down in flames</a>. (Go Heels!) Good news goes around. Totally unrelated, but the infamous Ted Stevens (AK) has just gone down in flames.

(Go Heels!)

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]]> By: Doug Gibson http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2008/11/18/lolberman/comment-page-1/#comment-26367 Doug Gibson Wed, 19 Nov 2008 02:30:44 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=6390#comment-26367 I don't like Lieberman, and it's personal. I was three feet away from him at a Democratic phonebank in New Haven in 1996, and the jerk couldn't be bothered to shake my hand - or anyone else's, for that matter, except the person in charge of the office. He didn't even make eye contact, smile, and wave. Anyway, bob, after having accepted the honor of being the Democratic vice-presidential nominee, he could have shown a lot more interest in unity and comity with the rest of his party instead of backing Bush to the hilt on matters of defense, national security, and foreign policy. In for a penny, in for a pound. If he had doubts about which party he wanted to belong to, he should have simply said "no" to Al Gore. In North Carolina you can't file as an independent after losing a primary - you file once, months before the primary, and that's when you make your choice about your affiliation. If Joe had such significant qualms about being a Democrat, why didn't he leave the party <i>before</i> he lost the primary? Given that he owed a lot of his prestige and seniority to the Democratic voters of Connecticut who had nominated him time and time again, continuing his candidacy after losing the nomination was the ultimate act of bad faith. I don’t like Lieberman, and it’s personal. I was three feet away from him at a Democratic phonebank in New Haven in 1996, and the jerk couldn’t be bothered to shake my hand – or anyone else’s, for that matter, except the person in charge of the office. He didn’t even make eye contact, smile, and wave.

Anyway, bob, after having accepted the honor of being the Democratic vice-presidential nominee, he could have shown a lot more interest in unity and comity with the rest of his party instead of backing Bush to the hilt on matters of defense, national security, and foreign policy. In for a penny, in for a pound. If he had doubts about which party he wanted to belong to, he should have simply said “no” to Al Gore.

In North Carolina you can’t file as an independent after losing a primary – you file once, months before the primary, and that’s when you make your choice about your affiliation. If Joe had such significant qualms about being a Democrat, why didn’t he leave the party before he lost the primary? Given that he owed a lot of his prestige and seniority to the Democratic voters of Connecticut who had nominated him time and time again, continuing his candidacy after losing the nomination was the ultimate act of bad faith.

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]]> By: Gordon Smith http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2008/11/18/lolberman/comment-page-1/#comment-26366 Gordon Smith Wed, 19 Nov 2008 02:16:09 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=6390#comment-26366 Oh yeah - <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081119/ap_on_el_ge/stevens" rel="nofollow">Begich beat Toobz Stevens in Alaska</a> Oh yeah – Begich beat Toobz Stevens in Alaska

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]]> By: Gordon Smith http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2008/11/18/lolberman/comment-page-1/#comment-26365 Gordon Smith Wed, 19 Nov 2008 02:14:51 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=6390#comment-26365 Here's hoping that Obama's got him on a short leash. One misstep and sayonara? The Democratic wing of the Democratic Party challenged him in the form of Ned Lamont in the primary. Those voters voted for Lamont. Lieberman then bailed into "Connecticut for Lieberman" Party, making Joe a bit like our own Army of Mumpower. Lieberman then threw in with the Republicans who voted him into the Senate. You can say that "his party" disowned him, or you could say that the voters said they didn't want him. Either way, Ol' Joementum is a slippery salamander who wants his status and power more than anything else. Here's hoping Jim Martin takes Chambliss down in the Georgia Senate runoff and that Franken beats Coleman in Minnesota. It'll make Lieberman less relevant than ever. Here’s hoping that Obama’s got him on a short leash. One misstep and sayonara?

The Democratic wing of the Democratic Party challenged him in the form of Ned Lamont in the primary. Those voters voted for Lamont. Lieberman then bailed into “Connecticut for Lieberman” Party, making Joe a bit like our own Army of Mumpower. Lieberman then threw in with the Republicans who voted him into the Senate.

You can say that “his party” disowned him, or you could say that the voters said they didn’t want him. Either way, Ol’ Joementum is a slippery salamander who wants his status and power more than anything else.

Here’s hoping Jim Martin takes Chambliss down in the Georgia Senate runoff and that Franken beats Coleman in Minnesota. It’ll make Lieberman less relevant than ever.

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]]> By: bobaloo http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2008/11/18/lolberman/comment-page-1/#comment-26364 bobaloo Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:37:23 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=6390#comment-26364 Oh, and he's still chairman of the Homeland Sec. committee. Why are we laughing again? Oh, and he’s still chairman of the Homeland Sec. committee. Why are we laughing again?

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]]> By: bobaloo http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2008/11/18/lolberman/comment-page-1/#comment-26363 bobaloo Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:34:33 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=6390#comment-26363 I obviously didn't support Lieb's endorsement, but I still like him. I can't blame the guy when his own party disowned him first. I obviously didn’t support Lieb’s endorsement, but I still like him. I can’t blame the guy when his own party disowned him first.

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]]> By: Jim Jenkins http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2008/11/18/lolberman/comment-page-1/#comment-26360 Jim Jenkins Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:24:07 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=6390#comment-26360 ha ha

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]]> By: rip http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2008/11/18/lolberman/comment-page-1/#comment-26359 rip Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:46:03 +0000 http://scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=6390#comment-26359 .....and we're laughing at him because the Democrats slapped his wrist and are hoping he won't betray them again???? Seems to me he'll be the one who gets the last laugh. We're still screwed. …..and we’re laughing at him because the Democrats slapped his wrist and are hoping he won’t betray them again????

Seems to me he’ll be the one who gets the last laugh.

We’re still screwed.

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