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Wednesday Open Thread: Gaseous
ByI managed to fill my tank yesterday, but there are a lot of folks who haven’t… and won’t be able to. I’m bracing for cancellations at work tomorrow, but if folks show up then I won’t have a minute to add to this virtual page.
It’s all yours, Hooligans. What’s on your minds?
UPDATE: Had to add this clear-headed if slightly cutesy take on EPIC BAIL:
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September 24th, 2008 at 10:09 am
If one more person asks me if I know where he/she can get some gas I may have to be restrained. Diversify people!
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September 24th, 2008 at 10:14 am
Quick note – I noticed that this AC-T article mentions that the restart on the shuttered refineries has a predictable time frame. In otherwords, this ‘crisis’ was completely predictable, if only someone had bothered to consider it. Imagine if you’d had two weeks notice about this. You’d have gas in both cars and an adjusted schedule to manage the situation.
It’s really disappointing that no one in our city, county, state, or national government bothered to pay attention.
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September 24th, 2008 at 10:20 am
I have to get me and my family to Raleigh to catch a flight today, but I’m afraid I wont even be able to find gas along I-40.
Anyone know how far out of town we’ll have to drive to have a better chance of finding some fuel?
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September 24th, 2008 at 11:42 am
adam says:
Alaska.
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September 24th, 2008 at 11:53 am
This crisis wasn’t caused by political or industry leaders failing too warn the public – but Asheville residents who have not based lifestyle decisions around a multi-modal framework. In fact, the very idea of multi-modal transit is so outside Asheville’s mental framework, it was barely considered an option this week.
Notice how most of the conversations during the shortage have been about where to find gas, blaming “hoarders”, rumor-mongering about the police commandeering gasoline, and griping that this could all be avoided if gouging were legal.
I have read almost nothing about where the bus routes are, or seen stories about sharetheride.org, or over-heard commentary about the benefits of bike-riding.
The lesson from all this is that Asheville is not only unprepared both physically and geographically for a gas shortage – but psycologicaly as well.
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September 24th, 2008 at 11:57 am
Low Key, Asheville is not western North Carolina. There are many more people in a bind than city residents.
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September 24th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Low Key,
Looks like a golden opportunity to help people change behavior, try the bus, etc. I’m driving a LOT less, walking more, and using my bike.
On another note, I just got half a tank of gas at BJ’s on Haywood Road. $4.30/gallon – $30 maximum. Long lines.
It’s going to be another week before the gas starts flowing again, and even then it’ll be at $4/gallon.
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September 24th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Wait a minute, you filled up yesterday, then topped off again today?!
Shame, Gordon!
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September 24th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Bobaloo:
Very true. But I can only speak about the community I’m a part of and experience first-hand.
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September 24th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
This idea must come from one of two basic ideas that are common. The one it comes from is that people are lacking brains and need leaders and government systems to help them out.
Mine comes from the other point of view that people are not stupid and will be self-reliant when crunch time comes.
The people are not going to starve. They are going become creative in solving their problems.
Maybe we have the chance here of a reawakening of self-reliance and creativity.
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September 24th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
No, Bob. I filled my Honda Civic yesterday and got half a tank in my truck this morning. I think the Smith family will be alright until supplies return.
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September 24th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
adam- i just got back from raleigh sunday and we had no problems finding gas down there. once we got past old fort there seems to be plenty, but that was a couple days ago.
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September 24th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
I just got back from the Outer Banks and I had no problem getting gas outside of the Asheville area.
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September 24th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
From a Buncombe Democratic Party email:
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September 24th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
Rove, you magnificent bastard:
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/24/breaking-mccain-suspends-campaign-to-deal-with-economy-calls-for-debate-to-be-postponed/
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September 24th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
John McCain = Joe Dunn for President.
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September 24th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
“blaming “hoarders— – I have seen many people waiting in line for gas with their car and two or more large red gas cans, so unless the gas station is not allowing them to fill their cans then they are hoarding gas.
“rumor-mongering about the police commandeering gasoline” – on my way home yesterday I saw the Eblen on Broadway was completely surrounded and parking lot blocked off by Sheriff’s patrol cars. They have had gas all week for only LEO and gov’t workers, so unless someone robbed the store yesterday, the police are commandeering the gas at that station. You can’t even get in to buy beer and cigarettes.
And so the madness continues – good grief people, have you never heard of walking or riding the bus? I feel sorry for the people who live in that neighborhood who can’t walk to the Eblen and buy drinks, etc. I’m glad the gas station near my house is out of gas so I can still go buy beer.
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September 24th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
oh yeah – and I haven’t had to wait behind a bunch of stupid people buying lottery tickets either – I guess they’re not feeling lucky!
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September 24th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Lindsey and Greenasheville –
Thanks for the info… makes me feel better about my trip. No thanks go to Tim Peck for his politically-slanted, nonhelpful comment.
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September 24th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Or the station has a contract to provide gas to the sheriff in case of a shortage.
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September 24th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
I think it’s more important for the police to have gas than for me to have gas. Call me crazy.
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September 24th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Rep. Susan Fisher in an email says:
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September 24th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
How about people stop panicking? If you have enough in the tank to get to Travelers Rest or Morganton, and you absolutely positively cannot do without it, fill up there. If not, sit out the headless chicken stuff, consolidate your trips and drive smarter, rather than contributing to it.
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September 24th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
Watch this video to the end and hold your sides, just substitute Asheville for Nashville. You might have to cut and paste.
http://blogs.nashvillescene.com/pitw/2008/09/inside_the_metro_bunker.php
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September 24th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
This gas “crisis” just got me a four day weekend…not too shabby!
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September 24th, 2008 at 7:01 pm
Could McCain be any more lame? First he said he wanted to postpone Friday’s debate, so he could drag presidential politics into the economic EPIC BAIL. This despite the fact that he hasn’t been bothered to cast but one vote since March of this year. Now this. Feel the desperation:
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September 24th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Thanks Peter. Living in South Asheville it is fairly difficult to ride the bus since the last run hits the airport around 6:30pm, plus my half mile walk to the bus stop has but one stretch of sidewalk (I believe it lasts for about 300 feet or so). I hope this problem has expanded bus service at the end. On the biking front, there are no lanes or shoulders to speak of, and drivers down here cannot grasp that the road is for all vehicles not just cars. I can’t decide if Sunday or evening bus service would be better, but I certainly hope that one or the other come along.
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September 24th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
My coincidental timing couldn’t have been better. My previously made appointment had been moved up to today.
What a day. Apparent financial meltdowns, suspensions of campaigns by hopeless Republicans, a major local gas crises unseen since 73. Add beautiful weather and some smiles and some good news that my daughter is back safe from overseas, and you’ve got a pretty memorable day.
That’s why I’m so stoked that my Mermaid tatoo was tuned up today. I’ve had her about five years and she covers most of my upper left arm. Before the tune up, she was just kind of floating there, sitting on a few rocks. Tonight she now has splashing waves around her and the expanded rocks. Next month we’ll finish it up with a shoreline and Dover like cliffs topped with a lighthouse, blue sky, white clowds and those seagulls we used to draw in kindergarten off in the distance.
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September 25th, 2008 at 2:56 am
WaPo/ABC: Obama 52, McCain 43. Right track: 14
FoxNues: Obama 45, McCain 39
NBC/WSJ: Obama 48, McCain 46
Bloomberg/LAT: Obama 49, McCain 45
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September 25th, 2008 at 11:02 am
Rasmussen: Obama by 2 in NC.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/north_carolina/election_2008_north_carolina_presidential_election
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