Comments on: Reason #2,432,129 Not To Bomb Iran http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2008/06/01/reason-2432129-not-to-bomb-iran/ If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen. — Samuel Adams Tue, 22 May 2012 23:13:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: bobaloo http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2008/06/01/reason-2432129-not-to-bomb-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-20940 bobaloo Mon, 02 Jun 2008 15:18:17 +0000 http://www.scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=5524#comment-20940 <blockquote cite="">There’s no evidence that Iran has any nukes, mind you, nor any that they are working to build them. In fact, the world’s leading experts on the matter say there’s no evidence Iran pursued nukes after 2004</blockquote> While I certainly agree that any attack on Iran would be an absolutely disastrous course, I don't understand the stance many on the left take on their nuclear development. Even the article you linked states that Iran is withholding critical information in their nuclear program concerning high explosive tests and missile development, not to mention they've suspended short notice IAEA inspections. Neither of these developments inspire confidence. I agree that the youth in Iran is the best hope for reformation, but it's not wise to dismiss concerns people have over their nuclear development program. I would, however, be very interested to know where TP got his information from.

There’s no evidence that Iran has any nukes, mind you, nor any that they are working to build them. In fact, the world’s leading experts on the matter say there’s no evidence Iran pursued nukes after 2004

While I certainly agree that any attack on Iran would be an absolutely disastrous course, I don’t understand the stance many on the left take on their nuclear development.
Even the article you linked states that Iran is withholding critical information in their nuclear program concerning high explosive tests and missile development, not to mention they’ve suspended short notice IAEA inspections. Neither of these developments inspire confidence.

I agree that the youth in Iran is the best hope for reformation, but it’s not wise to dismiss concerns people have over their nuclear development program.

I would, however, be very interested to know where TP got his information from.

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]]> By: Anna Van Z http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2008/06/01/reason-2432129-not-to-bomb-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-20931 Anna Van Z Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:12:37 +0000 http://www.scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=5524#comment-20931 Right, but this isn't after 9/11, and I think a significant number of Americans are waking up to BushCo reality - which isn't reality at all, but a scary, twisted Bizarro-world parallel universe that has the power to pull the rest of the world into it. Not only would an invasion of Iran not be popular here, it would make America a pariah to almost every country except Israel. We could expect major embargos, major fuel and food shortages, and the involvement of Russia and China. China is not only the major U.S. creditor, they also make most of what America buys these days. Thanks to "free trade", almost nothing is made in America anymore. Only sociopathic lunatics would seriously contemplate an attack on Iran - which means BushCo is still likely to do it! I don't put anything past the Bush Cabal, including the possibility of a false flag operation that's blamed on Iran in order to justify an invasion. I just don't think it would have the political "benefits" these neo-loons imagine it will. Right, but this isn’t after 9/11, and I think a significant number of Americans are waking up to BushCo reality – which isn’t reality at all, but a scary, twisted Bizarro-world parallel universe that has the power to pull the rest of the world into it. Not only would an invasion of Iran not be popular here, it would make America a pariah to almost every country except Israel. We could expect major embargos, major fuel and food shortages, and the involvement of Russia and China. China is not only the major U.S. creditor, they also make most of what America buys these days. Thanks to “free trade”, almost nothing is made in America anymore. Only sociopathic lunatics would seriously contemplate an attack on Iran – which means BushCo is still likely to do it! I don’t put anything past the Bush Cabal, including the possibility of a false flag operation that’s blamed on Iran in order to justify an invasion. I just don’t think it would have the political “benefits” these neo-loons imagine it will.

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]]> By: Tim Peck http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2008/06/01/reason-2432129-not-to-bomb-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-20926 Tim Peck Mon, 02 Jun 2008 11:24:09 +0000 http://www.scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=5524#comment-20926 President Bush's popularity soared after 9-11. And so, McCain's can also in the event of a supposed nuclear threat from Iran against either the U.S., Israel, or any Western ally. Besides, McCain does not need very much of a surge in popularity to win. He needs to consolidate the support of his main constituency: Republicans. He need to avoid disturbing the religious right. He needs to appease moderates and hope that Obama is the other candidate. Then all he needs is a shiny new war; which the War Party can deliver. There you have it: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KACQuZVAE3s" rel="nofollow">President McCain</a>. McCain's biggest problem right now is the emergence of a <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/01/weekinreview/01bosman.html" rel="nofollow">viable third party</a>. (In my amateur opinion.) President Bush’s popularity soared after 9-11. And so, McCain’s can also in the event of a supposed nuclear threat from Iran against either the U.S., Israel, or any Western ally.

Besides, McCain does not need very much of a surge in popularity to win. He needs to consolidate the support of his main constituency: Republicans. He need to avoid disturbing the religious right. He needs to appease moderates and hope that Obama is the other candidate. Then all he needs is a shiny new war; which the War Party can deliver. There you have it: President McCain.

McCain’s biggest problem right now is the emergence of a viable third party.

(In my amateur opinion.)

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]]> By: Gordon Smith http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2008/06/01/reason-2432129-not-to-bomb-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-20922 Gordon Smith Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:42:14 +0000 http://www.scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=5524#comment-20922 Tim, How will it do that? I understand that what you're saying is the conventional wisdom, but I see no reason to believe that McCain's popularity will suddenly surge in the wake of another Bush mistake... Tim,

How will it do that? I understand that what you’re saying is the conventional wisdom, but I see no reason to believe that McCain’s popularity will suddenly surge in the wake of another Bush mistake…

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]]> By: Tim Peck http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2008/06/01/reason-2432129-not-to-bomb-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-20921 Tim Peck Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:19:48 +0000 http://www.scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=5524#comment-20921 <blockquote>I can think of a lot of ways to encourage the young Iranians to continue pushing towards a reformation. Bombing them needlessly is not among those ways.</blockquote> Yes. However, bombing them needlessly will go a long way toward electing President Bush's favorite candidate for President: Senator John "100 Years" McCain.

I can think of a lot of ways to encourage the young Iranians to continue pushing towards a reformation. Bombing them needlessly is not among those ways.

Yes. However, bombing them needlessly will go a long way toward electing President Bush’s favorite candidate for President: Senator John “100 Years” McCain.

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