Comments on: Duke Power Wants To Charge You… For Saving Energy http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2008/04/02/duke-power-wants-to-charge-you-for-saving-energy/ If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen. — Samuel Adams Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:18:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Ken Miller http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2008/04/02/duke-power-wants-to-charge-you-for-saving-energy/comment-page-1/#comment-19320 Ken Miller Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:18:31 +0000 http://www.scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=5185#comment-19320 Does Duke Energy have any customers in Asheville? What about in Buncombe County? I realize that Duke Power is the power company for folks down in Murphy, Nantahala, Cherokee, etc. I thought that Progress Energy was the electricity supplier here. Does Duke Energy have any customers in Asheville? What about in Buncombe County? I realize that Duke Power is the power company for folks down in Murphy, Nantahala, Cherokee, etc.

I thought that Progress Energy was the electricity supplier here.

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]]> By: Tom Buckner http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2008/04/02/duke-power-wants-to-charge-you-for-saving-energy/comment-page-1/#comment-19297 Tom Buckner Thu, 03 Apr 2008 00:17:05 +0000 http://www.scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=5185#comment-19297 A Palo Alto company called Nanosolar is making photovoltaic cells with inkjet printing technology. This is a disruptive advance. 2006 MIT Technology review article: http://www.technologyreview.com/read_article.aspx?ch=specialsections&sc=solar&id=17025&a= Their website today: http://www.nanosolar.com/ They are shipping panels right now, but their first year's output is already sold to Germany. Thom Hartmann was talking about how they're doing solar in Germany. Banks are required to lend you money to install panels; the utility has to buy your excess at 7x the going rate; the utility buyback just about covers the cost of the mortgage on the panels. The panels are paid off in about 10 years and last about 50 years so you get 40 years of free electricity. He went on to say that southern exposures are considered very valuable in Germany, that from the train you see panels everywhere, and that if this system works so well in Germany, not exactly a sunny clime, it would work anywhere. The power companies and banks, it must be noted, do the right thing in Germany because the government requires them to. When the government does things because the corporations require it to, bad things are done. SO: (People > Government > Corporations) Good (Corporations > Government > People) Bad A Palo Alto company called Nanosolar is making photovoltaic cells with inkjet printing technology. This is a disruptive advance. 2006 MIT Technology review article: http://www.technologyreview.com/read_article.aspx?ch=specialsections&sc=solar&id=17025&a=

Their website today: http://www.nanosolar.com/

They are shipping panels right now, but their first year’s output is already sold to Germany. Thom Hartmann was talking about how they’re doing solar in Germany. Banks are required to lend you money to install panels; the utility has to buy your excess at 7x the going rate; the utility buyback just about covers the cost of the mortgage on the panels. The panels are paid off in about 10 years and last about 50 years so you get 40 years of free electricity. He went on to say that southern exposures are considered very valuable in Germany, that from the train you see panels everywhere, and that if this system works so well in Germany, not exactly a sunny clime, it would work anywhere.

The power companies and banks, it must be noted, do the right thing in Germany because the government requires them to. When the government does things because the corporations require it to, bad things are done. SO:

(People > Government > Corporations) Good
(Corporations > Government > People) Bad

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