Mar
16

Shuler: Yes To Big Telecom, Maybe To HRC, No to Torture

By Gordon Smith

yes-no.jpgOur mixed bag Democrat has really been taking the schizoidal cake lately. Even his good votes have lately left me limp. Take the vote to override Bush’s veto on the the Intelligence Authorization Act, H.R. 2082 – Shuler said this in a press release:

I, like every other member of Congress, am committed to protecting our nation from terrorism. Our generals, including General Petraeus himself, however, have told us that torture is an ineffective tool in gaining useful and actionable information,” said Rep. Shuler

Shuler voted against torture, which, while hardly going out on a limb, is the right thing to do. However, Shuler leans on the St. Petraeus argument to make his case. Come on, Heath, you know torture is bad. Do you have to have General “I Heart Bush” Petraeus tell you that? If Petraeus said “Torture Rocks!”, would you support it?

Anyhoo. Shuler’s a superdelegate of course. He came out for John Edwards early and has been uncommitted since Edwards left the race. Hillary! had a dinner party and invited some of the Democratic Congressmen to come over and get shmoozed:

Trying to win over those who are undecided, Clinton wined and dined 17 superdelegates this week at her posh Washington home.

At the dinner was Rep. Heath Shuler, D-N.C., who had once endorsed former Sen John Edwards’ presidential run, and represents a conservative district in western North Carolina.

He said he pointed out to Clinton that even with Edwards on the Democratic ticket in 2004, Bush-Cheney won his district with 60 percent of the vote.

How, Shuler asked Clinton, could she compete?

“I’ve been winning rural and swing districts all over the country,” Clinton told him, according to sources at the dinner. Shuler remains uncommitted.

Rep. Jason Altmire, D-Pa., also attended the dinner at Clinton’s home, but he had a different question.

“If Sen. Obama finishes this process after all the states have participated and he’s still leading in the delegate count and he’s won more states and he has a higher popular vote, why would a superdelegate at that point choose to go the other way?” he asked Clinton.

Shuler’s going to keep on remaining undecided, leveraging his position for whatever he can get. I get it, but that hasn’t stopped me from wondering aloud to his staff whether it wouldn’t be a more principled position to simply agree to cast his “super” vote depending on how his constituents vote on May 6th.

So there’s your kinda-sorta good, your waffly-wavery maybe, and here’s your nakedly awful: Shuler was one of only five Democrats to support George W. Bush and his Republicans in protecting Big Telecom companies from obeying the law. I don’t know what kind of reach-around Shuler’s getting to ask his constituents to accept this blatant contempt for civil liberties, but I sure hope the ecstasy is worth the agony. Donna Edwards is a progressive Congresswoman and someone who recognizes that Democratic Party folks don’t like it when their representatives stupidly support President 20%. She says this about the Democratic victory in Bush and Shuler’s attempt to excuse Big Telecom from the law:

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Shuler’s vote on the FISA bill is and will probably always be a mystery to me. I’ve never understood why anyone would support telecom amnesty out of principle, so at first I thought Shuler was just staying in solidarity with the other Blue Dogs, some of whom might need telecom money to get re-elected.

But since most of them lined up with the rest of the Democrats, that can’t be the reason. Even 16 of the 21 Blue Dogs who signed that letter to Pelosi changed their positions. Steny Hoyer was standing with the Democratic majority and rebutting Bush’s fear-mongering.

It’d be interesting to know how much public pressure (phone calls, etc.) Shuler was getting in the other direction on this bill. Because I can’t imagine that there was anyone out there so keen to give the telecoms amnesty. And if I’m right and there wasn’t, where did this decision come from?

If we look at the 2008 campaign finance records and see that Shuler got a huge chunk of change from the telecom companies (something along the lines of Rockefeller’s $42,000), then I’ll be extremely disappointed.

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Heck, even Army of Mumpower came out against telecom immunity!

Breaking with President Bush and the Republican leadership in Congress, congressional candidate Carl Mumpower has come out against more “hidden powers” for intelligence agencies.

“Bad things grow in the dark and government at all levels is trying to turn out the lights,” Mumpower, an Asheville City Council member, said in a news release. “Recent Senate and House debates on Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) have generated widespread debate on the necessity of government actions shrouded in secrecy.

“The more liberties we grant government agencies, the less liberty we find in the hands of people,” he said. “I am not in favor of the immunity found in recent FISA legislation for telecoms or anyone else and continue to believe that the pervasive bureaucratic dysfunction of America’s intelligence agencies offer few incentives for more hidden powers.

“Terror threats are real, but there are many productive things we can do to protect America from those threats before we surrender the rule of law and personal freedoms.”

Bush has strongly supported a FISA bill that grants immunity to phone companies that turn over records in intelligence cases.

Mumpower said securing borders, enforcing existing laws and audits of intelligence agencies will do more to protect the U.S. than allowing the government “to expand its veil of secrecy.”

“Transparency is one of the most crucial components of our constitutional Republic,” he said. “I will be no part of exchanging the light of our tomorrows for a placebo of questionable security today.”

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Darn. Wish I’d known that when I voted in the straw poll.

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No surprise that Mumpower came out against it. Right or wrong, he has a bit of a Ron Paul streak in him that will help him with some and might hurt him with others, if one of his primary opponents tries to go that route.

I haven’t read up on Heath Shuler’s views on the Iraq war, but if Shuler believes it was a correct/justified war to prosecute, he could well run to the right of Mumpower (who says it wasn’t) on that aspect and nullify whatever stain his opposition to the surge might give him in the eyes of conservatives.

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Chad,

Mumpower wants us to stay in Iraq as long as McCain and Bush, right? Shuler’s given lip service and a few votes to trying to get us out.

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