Comments on: McHenry watchdog site removed from internet http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2007/05/23/mchenry-watchdog-site-removed-from-internet/ If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen. — Samuel Adams Mon, 21 May 2012 17:52:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Ashevillein http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2007/05/23/mchenry-watchdog-site-removed-from-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-7271 Ashevillein Sat, 26 May 2007 03:52:24 +0000 http://www.scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=3307#comment-7271 Maybe Patty is "friends" with one or more of the 4 Gays? Maybe Patty is “friends” with one or more of the 4 Gays?

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]]> By: Drama Queen http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2007/05/23/mchenry-watchdog-site-removed-from-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-6883 Drama Queen Thu, 24 May 2007 15:58:37 +0000 http://www.scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=3307#comment-6883 Did Lyle Rashorda ever get threatened? And Petulant, I just learned that 4 Gays Hosting is very small and was hosting for free and can't afford attorneys . . . Did Lyle Rashorda ever get threatened?

And Petulant, I just learned that 4 Gays Hosting is very small and was hosting for free and can’t afford attorneys . . .

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]]> By: syntax http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2007/05/23/mchenry-watchdog-site-removed-from-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-6871 syntax Thu, 24 May 2007 15:25:08 +0000 http://www.scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=3307#comment-6871 Petulant sez: <blockquote>This is such Bullshit! Can you even begin to count the sites that parody and mock officials?</blockquote> I seem to recall one in particular... Petulant sez:

This is such Bullshit! Can you even begin to count the sites that parody and mock officials?

I seem to recall one in particular…

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]]> By: petulant http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2007/05/23/mchenry-watchdog-site-removed-from-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-6806 petulant Thu, 24 May 2007 03:02:44 +0000 http://www.scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=3307#comment-6806 Jesus! Do 4Gays Hosting not understand free speech and fair use? They get scared by a call. Did they even bother to contact their attorneys? This is such Bullshit! Can you even begin to count the sites that parody and mock officials? What I saw of Patrick Mchenry Exposed showed facts and hadn't even got the ball rolling yet. O'wait.. that's the problem. Silly me! I always forget what age we live in. Facts are bad! Moving overseas,while understandable, seems a drastic measure. This is Mchenry not RIAA. Jesus! Do 4Gays Hosting not understand free speech and fair use? They get scared by a call. Did they even bother to contact their attorneys?

This is such Bullshit! Can you even begin to count the sites that parody and mock officials?

What I saw of Patrick Mchenry Exposed showed facts and hadn’t even got the ball rolling yet.

O’wait.. that’s the problem. Silly me! I always forget what age we live in. Facts are bad!

Moving overseas,while understandable, seems a drastic measure. This is Mchenry not RIAA.

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]]> By: Screwy Hoolie http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2007/05/23/mchenry-watchdog-site-removed-from-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-6805 Screwy Hoolie Thu, 24 May 2007 02:55:33 +0000 http://www.scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=3307#comment-6805 From the comment thread at Kos: "<blockquote>This person’s complaint was that the information contained on the website was false, misleading and potentially in violation of corporate libel and slander laws.</blockquote> I'm pretty sure that this isn't a valid reason to terminate a hosting contract - the courts have generally held that web hosts are common carriers and aren't liable for what their subscribers post on those sites (additionally, it says this in pretty much any site's TOS). Specifically, from their TOS: <blockquote>AlphaOne Technology takes no responsibility for any material input by others and not posted to the AlphaOne Technology Network by AlphaOne Technology. AlphaOne Technology is not responsible for the content of any other websites linked to the AlphaOne Technology Network; links are provided as Internet navigation tools only. AlphaOne Technology disclaims any responsibility for any such inappropriate use and any liability to any person or party for any other person or party's violation of this policy. </blockquote> Even if it's not that, however, the ISP can take down any site when it feels like it: <blockquote>AlphaOne Technology reserves the right to suspend network access to any customer if in the judgment of the AlphaOne Technology network administrators the customer's server or the given Web space is the source or target of the violation of any of the other terms of the AUP or for any other reason which AlphaOne Technology chooses.</blockquote> Funny thing is that their AUP opens with: <blockquote>We support the uncensored flow of information and ideas over the Internet and do not actively monitor subscriber activity under normal circumstances. Similarly, we do not exercise editorial control over the content of any web site, e-mail transmission, newsgroups, or other material created or accessible over or through the services, except for certain proprietary Web sites.</blockquote> Short answer is that the guy's webhost is being an asshole. I like DreamHost, and ASmallOrange as hosts, but even Blogger is generally good about ignoring these messages. "The NSA offers exciting work for recent graduates in computer science. Pick up the phone, call your mom, and ask for an application."" From the comment thread at Kos:

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This person’s complaint was that the information contained on the website was false, misleading and potentially in violation of corporate libel and slander laws.

I’m pretty sure that this isn’t a valid reason to terminate a hosting contract – the courts have generally held that web hosts are common carriers and aren’t liable for what their subscribers post on those sites (additionally, it says this in pretty much any site’s TOS).

Specifically, from their TOS:

AlphaOne Technology takes no responsibility for any material input by others and not posted to the AlphaOne Technology Network by AlphaOne Technology. AlphaOne Technology is not responsible for the content of any other websites linked to the AlphaOne Technology Network; links are provided as Internet navigation tools only. AlphaOne Technology disclaims any responsibility for any such inappropriate use and any liability to any person or party for any other person or party’s violation of this policy.

Even if it’s not that, however, the ISP can take down any site when it feels like it:

AlphaOne Technology reserves the right to suspend network access to any customer if in the judgment of the AlphaOne Technology network administrators the customer’s server or the given Web space is the source or target of the violation of any of the other terms of the AUP or for any other reason which AlphaOne Technology chooses.

Funny thing is that their AUP opens with:

We support the uncensored flow of information and ideas over the Internet and do not actively monitor subscriber activity under normal circumstances. Similarly, we do not exercise editorial control over the content of any web site, e-mail transmission, newsgroups, or other material created or accessible over or through the services, except for certain proprietary Web sites.

Short answer is that the guy’s webhost is being an asshole. I like DreamHost, and ASmallOrange as hosts, but even Blogger is generally good about ignoring these messages.

“The NSA offers exciting work for recent graduates in computer science. Pick up the phone, call your mom, and ask for an application.”"

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]]> By: Screwy Hoolie http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2007/05/23/mchenry-watchdog-site-removed-from-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-6804 Screwy Hoolie Thu, 24 May 2007 02:19:21 +0000 http://www.scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=3307#comment-6804 <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/23/22545/1516" rel="nofollow">Please recommend at Kos.</a> Please recommend at Kos.

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]]> By: Drama Queen http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2007/05/23/mchenry-watchdog-site-removed-from-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-6798 Drama Queen Thu, 24 May 2007 00:47:21 +0000 http://www.scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=3307#comment-6798 Threatening people works. Threatening people works.

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]]> By: syntax http://scrutinyhooligans.us/2007/05/23/mchenry-watchdog-site-removed-from-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-6797 syntax Thu, 24 May 2007 00:26:03 +0000 http://www.scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=3307#comment-6797 Pardon my French, but how the fuck do "corporate slander and libel laws" apply to a public figure whose salary is paid by US taxpayers? Little Patricia is not a private citizen. Perhaps he should wear a cup? <small>Oh, right. To wear a cup you need balls.</small> The site's original design, if it is indeed parodying McHenry's campaign site, is clearly protected by Fair Use, so I don't see what the problem is there. Pardon my French, but how the fuck do “corporate slander and libel laws” apply to a public figure whose salary is paid by US taxpayers? Little Patricia is not a private citizen. Perhaps he should wear a cup? Oh, right. To wear a cup you need balls.

The site’s original design, if it is indeed parodying McHenry’s campaign site, is clearly protected by Fair Use, so I don’t see what the problem is there.

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